i've had an ipod and got prty sik of them, not just because everyone had them but because the video was too big for skiing and the nano was too thin and i'd be afraid of falling on a 200$ piece of plastic that could crack easily, i sold mine, went out today and bought a Creative Zen Stone Plus 2gb for like $50 its the size of a shuffle, it's so light u can't feel it, it looks like a stone lol and it has a display unlike the shuffle, can't go wrong for 50$ + sound quality is amzing and btr than an ipod as long as u use in ear head phones which i had lying around the house ( the stock ones r crap), on top of it i was prty impressed this thing has a voice recorder and radio tuner, so yeah if u need a christmas gift or want something to listen to beets on the hill buy this, i don't usually write reviews but i had to for this for $50 CAN't GO WRONG its 50 in canada so prolly 40 in the states... heres a pic
[img]http://www.archoslounge.net/IMG/jpg_creative-zen-stone-plus-01.jpg[img]
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