Who in your opinion is the best rapper(lyrically)

r u serious lil wayne?
just look at your sig and you can see how much his lyrics suck
i know you night think its cool cause it includes the word"reefer" but i beg to differ

jay z

immortal technique
tupac
jedi mind tricks
nas

eyedea or QWEL hands down. no one can fuck with these cats.

Zion I is up there

DL incognito for sure

Immortal Technique as well

Can't forget tupac

and NAS

Jay-Z, Nas, or Smalls

aesop
immortal technique
biggie

RZA, Biggie, JMT, aesop

100% agree.  if u look at the songs he write they all have the sickest lyrics ever

2pac
nas
Jay-z.

Yea...that pretty much sums it up.

I'm gonna smack someone if they say Lil Wayne

word i cant believe more people dont say him, lyrically he destroys it

immortal tech- dancing with the devil

first off 2pac lyrically is much better then biggie. regardless of who u like more.

second, lil jon has better lyrics than any rapper out there alive or dead:

proof:Yeah!
Right about now (whats up)
It's time for the real nigga roll call
Now when you hear your city or state being called
You put your motherfuckin' middle finger up in this bitch
ATL, St. Louis, Alabahma, Chicago, The Carolina's, Nep Town,
DC, The Bay Area, VA, Miami, New York niggas, texas, You know!

[Hook]
[Lil' Jon:]
Ya'll niggas can't fuck wit my niggas ho! [x4]

[Chorus]
[Lil' Jon and Ice Cube:]
Mothafuck that nigga! [x4]
Mothafuck that bitch! [x4]

[Lil' Jon:]
Ya'll bitches!
Come on flexin' ass flauntin' ass niggas!
My Niggas!
Be some real ass treal ass niggas!
Your niggas!
Be some ho ass pussy ass niggas!
My Niggas!
Be some head-bustin' gangsta ass niggas!
Your Niggas!
Be some runnin' and scared ass niggas!
My Niggas!
Be some Roy Jone beat ya ass niggas!
Your Niggas!
Be some cake and handcuffin' ass niggas!
My Niggas!
Be some "Send them hoes out!" ass niggas!
Your Niggas!
Be some tricking "Don't pay them hoes!" ass niggas!
My Niggas!
Be some Don Juan piumpin' ass niggas!
Your Niggas!
Be some 22 havin' ass niggas!
My Niggas!
Be some chopper street sweepin' ass niggas!
Your Niggas!
Them ol' half ounce sellin' ass niggas!
My Niggas!
Be some dirty bird movin' ass niggas!
Your Niggas!
Be some kissin' security ass ass niggas!
My Niggas!
Fuck them hoes and let 'em know ass niggas!

[Hook]

[Chorus]

[Ice Cube:]
See I'ma mean nigga
Youse afraid nigga
Ol' pretend nigga
Smile and grin nigga
I hate a false niggas
Diana Ross nigga
So if ya lost nigga
Meet tha boss nigga
He's a super nigga
Grin and groupa nigga
Act stupid nigga
I'll fuckin' nuke tha nigga
Cuz youse a happy nigga
And ima nappy nigga
Fuckin' scrappy nigga
Meet ya pappy nigga
Its ice cube nigga
And lil jon nigga
So if ya drunk nigga
Keep it crunk nigga
Til' you punk nigga
Feel tha bump nigga
Get yo testifying ass in tha trunk nigga
You wanna tell nigga
I'll dump a shell nigga
Send a frail nigga
Str8 ta hell nigga
Thats ya shelter nigga
Helt-a-skelta nigga
And when I belt a nigga
Y'all help a nigga!

[Hook]

[chorus]

[Lil Jon Talking:]
Yeah!
I see you and your lil click up in tha club nigga
I see ya'll niggas over there talkin' that shit
But you know what nigga 
Bitch niggas get dealt wit motherfuckin' real quick!

[Ice Cube:]
Here we come boy
Real niggas shoot ta kill betta run boy
Or you can tell me how I feel as a 
Real nigga
Which nigga
Go get a bitch nigga
No better
Hoes better do what I say
Cuz I'm insane in tha brain
Bitch I got rick james in my veins
Real niggas never change
We just let it bang
Roll thru tha gutter lane
Daddy said let 'em hang
And cut 'em like its butter mayne
Skeet skeet skeet
Naw thats tha other mayne
Cuz my skeet never leak out this rubber man
TNA ain't workin' niggas DNA
That crazy bitch'll have ya ass off E&J
Fake niggas got these real bitches bein' gay
Til my peoples come around its like night and day
Now she wanna change her god and the way she pray
Authentic niggas all know thats tha playa way

[Hook]

[chorus]

[Lil Jon:]
We runnin this bitch
Ya'll niggas ain't shit
We runnin this bitch
Ya'll niggas ain't shit
We in tha club gettin' crunk
You in tha club gettin' stomped
We in tha club gettin' crunk
You in tha club gettin' stomped
We in tha hood on tha block
You in tha hood gettin' shot
We in tha hood on tha block
You in tha hood gettin' shot
We quick ta show you what we bout
You quick to run ya fuckin' mouth
We quick ta show you what we bout
You quick to run ya fuckin' mouth
Real niggas from tha east
And we got a fuckin' piece
Real niggas from tha east
And we got a fuckin' piece
We against tha niggas from tha west
Puttin' holes in ya vest
We against tha niggas from tha west
Puttin' holes in ya vest
My midwest niggas hard
Quick ta pull ya fuckin' card
My midwest niggas hard
Quick ta pull ya fuckin' card
And down south we set if off
Blow ya fuckin' face off
And down south we set if off
Blow ya fuckin' face off (real nigga roll call!)

talib kweli

nas is incredible, lil wayne is insane, made rhymes but his flow isnt so good, but it makes up for it easily, notorious, cant forget him. overall if i could only choose one rapper, LIL WEEZY would be it

^ wow. that was uncalled for. that was just terrible.

I would say it has to be
DL Incognito right now. His raps is str8 fyre. haha.
Atmosphere is also a personal fav.

i would say tupacs songs are lyrically very good i also like lil wayne.. while i love tupac and his songs are honestly amazing but for all of you think he was sooo gangster and hard i hope you all know he went to several art's school's and took courses like jazz, acting, ballet, and poetry... this is why i think most of rappers now adays are so one demensional they are all trying to act hard as hell but how can someone be like forty years old and acting gangster i mean honsetly grow up dude... tupac was an icon all the classes he took helped his stage presence and his lyrical ability.. i also love to listen to biggie also....

Classified.

BIG motherfucking L has some of the most ridiculous lyrics ever.

deltron 3030!
positive contact such a great song

Man are we all white here?

flow and voice is just as important if not is more than lyrics therefore the answer is:

Big L
Cannibus
Nas in the early days
Pharoahe Monch
Black Thought
Phife Dawg

all i can think of now.


The answer is  most definetly not aesop.  that dude is terrible.

diffenitly christopher wallace or guru from gangstarr

guilty simpson, j dilla , madlib,  jaylib (j dilla and madlib collaboration)

soulja boy.

My personal favorites are NAS and Biggie.

i lol'd

Slick Rick. And the creator is going to argue biggie isn't a good lyricist when  he lists jmt as one of the best. you got it twisted kid.

oh fuck dont forget the game, if you disagree just listen to
300 bars and running - the game
if that doesnt change ur mind then i dono what will

well at least what JMT raps about has some sort of intellectual basis or personal expierence or hardships. you can literally boil down all of biggies songs into 3 categories.  Girls, Money, How thug he is

I like Del, and Nas.

alright here you go....Biggie grew up in the hood, regardless if he went to a catholic school or not. Maybe his mother spent all the money on his school and he was poor, you shouldn't assume that it means he wasn't hood, because quite frankly i am sure he is 100% more hood than jmt. And what the fuck are you talking about 'at least jmt bases their lyrics on something that what ever you said'. Vinnie paz talks sooooooo much shit about absolutely nothing such as: Killing gay people, beating the shit out of gay people, beating the shit out of people, killing people, and beating the shit out of people. Oh yeah and hating people in general. So in conclusion by a biggie album and actually listen to it, rather than basing you shitty decision off of big papa, juicy, and all of the other well known shit. The End

immortal technique without a doubt

i dont see how people can keep mentioning him...he just puts campfire circle stories to beats...sure they give you chills and shit but thats just cause there gruesome as fuck.

zach de la rocha

first of all music is all preference. yes i feel like dying sucks..but that doesnt mean his other songs suck. if u listen to his other lyrics they actually tell storys and have meanings behind them.  like i said i could have easily said nas, a tribe called quest, 2pac, people under the stairs, brother ali, common, De la soul, Dre, Gangstarr...the list goes on and on. personnaly i like lil wayne the best.  and dont tell me what music sucks because i bet there is some music u like that i would think sucks the d. not trying to throw hate into this thread but questioning someones choice of music(in this situation best rapper) is out of line. biggie has some if the illest flows ive ever heard dont get me wrong.

how much technique do you listen to? where i'm from historical facts and political news don't make for very good campfire stories.

Eminem
Big L
Nas
LL Cool J.

Haha me fucking too. I'm just waiting for it though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcYVKrBatj8

Tell me this is just some campy song put to a beat....

Lemme think
(Not in order)
Nas
Aesop
Mos Def
Common
Talib Kweli
The Roots

MAC DRE Everyone else aint shit.

u used to like him

1. DL
2. immortal
3.game
4.pac
5.debateable..

haha, yes, most deffinitely.

and i'm a big fan of Pharoahe Monch, i like every one of his songs, if you disagree, listen to Agent Orange, it's an intense song

lyrically, i would have to say DELTRON 3030
but i really like GZA ODB TALIB KWELI   and WU TANG, yes i know gza and odb are in wu tang

Blackalicious
Nas
REBEL INS