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Is hiking a park illegal?
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So whenever I'm home from school, I got to this mountain near my hometown and hike some rails at the bottom of the mountain. This year they put up a sign that says a lift ticket and park pass are required for the "park". The sign is facing the bottom of the mountain right on the hike to the park, so it's definately there for people like me...does anybody know if you can get busted for theft of services or something like that if you are just hiking rails and they ask to check your pass?
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i used to bust that at this one hill eventually they caught on and said i would get charged with trespassing cuz they claimed its private property ....not sure if thats the case but it was the end of the day so i went home
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i've gained some wisdom so this yr i'm going to say that buying a chairlift ticket enables you to use the chairlifts and that it has nothing to do with hiking the hill and skiing down if you want to
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a) Trespass,
b) More impotantly you aren't covered by their insurance therefore the resort no doubt has a liability/duty of care issue. Having a pass you also agree to their terms of use etc
Bottom line, you can't do it
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its not worth it just buy a ticket dont be cheap
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hey man i remember seeing you last year i was the kid with the green suit. if u just chill in the park the park crew is pretty cool they dont care but the 2 supervisors are kinda gay. lemme know when you head up i can get you discounted tickets and a few free ones mauybe
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generally mountains make it clear you need a pass. At least they do at mine. and if they catch you riding around w/o a pass they will think you tried to ski w/o paying. thats when they take you to security and if you say u were deff trying to ski for free(something like that) they will make you pay double or say you have to deal with the authorities for trespassing. which will always bea greater fine.
Hope this helps anyone. And if you wondering how I know this is because I used to do it alot before they caught on to who i was. At least i get some nice hellos by the lifties..its fun!
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well youre not just paying to use the hill youre paying for stuff like the ski patrol too and i know this sounds pretty loserish but you'll be thankful for them when you land on your back and cant move for 20 minutes... so just buy the ticket
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if the resort is on private property yes, straight up trespassing. public land, im not sure, yes you're allowed to take your skis for a walk, but using the park gets iffy.
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they might pull your pass... ooooh hahaha
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just ninja yourself onto the lift once and ski to the park and hike it with kids with passes and if they see you chillin with locals theyll assume your legit.
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Yeah... their snowmaking... their rails, their property.
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technically they could probably charge you with petty theft, but they probably would just tell you to leave and not come back. Get this me and my friends tried to sneak into a JV soccer game at our school and the security guy was like , oh i could have you guys charged with petty theft of course they he didn't even report us or anything but technically hiking the rails would be petty theft
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At most resorts they can charge you with trespassing. HOWEVER, is the resort is on public land, NOT including state forests, like my local hill, which is on city land, they can't do shit about it.
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a cool mountain would just let you do that anyways. who gives a shit you know? if you want to hike that shit go for it. if they have that bad a problem just move the park up a little bit and you'll cut out like half the kids hiking that shit.
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The ski hills have to make you buy a ticket because it's a liability release. In a place like sue-happy America that is absolutely essential. It sucks that it has to be this way, but it's a creation of the public's, not the resort's. I know at work last year we'd get chewed out when kids hiked the park and we didn't get them scanned just because people can't take responsibility for themselves.
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I thought about that when I read this too.
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come to smuggs vt! our tbar is free! and takes you right to the top of the park
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its not illegal, they just want you to pay.
they put the money up for the rail and box, the potential snowmaking, and the construction and maintenance. basically its trespassing when you dont buy a lift ticket... so maybe IM a liar, i guess technically it is illegal.
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IT IS ILLEGAL!!!!! its considered theft of services and they can charge you for that. It's not worth it, you're soo much better off with a ticket then a court date. Smaller mountains now are putting their parks at their bases to to draw attention/customors. However even though this is easy to hike with out a ticket, then mtns arent stupid and will catch on after a while.
moral of the story: IT IS ILLEGAL AND YOU CAN BE ARRESTED AND FINED FOR IT
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ya i dont thisnk thats legal but if u just buy a season pass then u can ride the park every day u wantÂ
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it's illegal cause you are using the features they have in the park and those are propertie of the resort....thats what i think but do it anyway
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You are using their things, thats make it illegal. Maybe you could deal something with the resort if you are not going to use chairlifts at all, like a cheap-pass or whatever.
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maybe you could just buy a park pass for the season and hike it, and when they see you have a park pass maybe they will assume you have a seasons pass/ticket
or just say you are afraid of heights and didnt want to take the chairlift :)
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yea we've had this issue at my mountain the past couple years and certainly will again this year... we set up a rail park at the bottom of the hill at the beginning of each season and have to put up signs saying you can't ride without a lift ticket. the biggest issue to the resort is the insurance, without a pass you aren't covered by their insurance. and yea we've had to threaten people with the police in order to get them to leave b/c they wouldnt buy a pass. so yea, like it's been stated above, it's illegal, and the resort can screw you pretty hard for it.
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in some places it is for sure, at Wentworth, NS they threatened to kick me and my friends off when we were hiking the park. they don't mind at all at my home mountain. My little bro does it all the time because he can't afford passes. At soem palces taht ahve Freestyle teams or snowboard teams, they have to hike for training all the time, so hiking is obviously OK there.
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not exactly
5 bucks
almost never check there though
i almost got in trouble hiking there too.
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During the season uphill traffic on the resort is not allowed...
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what about snowshoe-ers. i've definetely seen them hiking up on some catwalks
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yes, the mountains, but that man made snow, and park features they built, they own.
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Only when the lifts aren't running. I went to Sugarbush employee orientation today and they covered this, you can hike whatever you want as long as the lifts are running, so no its not illegal.
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a few years ago i hiked brighton's park for a couple months. it was never an issue. ski patrol didn't care. at one point, though, a park guy told me not to tell my friends i was riding for free. but i hiked up the mtn to their upper park cuz it was the only one open. i was really broke. if you can afford it just buy the tickets or season pass. you'll have more fun anyways.
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no, but you may need to register with the local authorities for hitting so much off-limits box
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if the usfs owns it you have every right to hike, just not on a closed trail.
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