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canonrider
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Because consumerism has become our natoional religon,

Because my country has sold its soul to corporate power,

Because we've forgotten the true meaning of freedom,

and because patriotrism now means agreeing with the president,

I pledge to do my duty and take my CONTINENT back




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Sep 4 2003 3:00PM
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NoTeefa
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you're a dork


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Sep 4 2003 3:35PM
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Melvs
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if you don't like it, do something about it and quite being a bitch and crying about it.
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Sep 4 2003 3:37PM
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ya nobody is gonna pay atteention to your cause until you blow up a few buildings.

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Sep 4 2003 5:17PM
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Papa
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who cares, what would you do without big name brands?> you wouldn't be skiing i'll tell you that much, ski hills don't make that much money if any through ticket sales, most of it comes from advertising and events like races and comps, you are an idiot and havn't thought things through like how our whole life basically revolves around it and a change like that would require to basically whipe out all humans




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Sep 4 2003 5:31PM
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Lanemeyers
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You have the brand of a ski company in your name.


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Sep 4 2003 5:59PM
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Phrosty
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i love consumerism. If you don't like big corporations get the fuck out. But your probably just trying to be cool by jumping on the adbusters bandwagon.


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Sep 4 2003 7:59PM
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canonrider
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hahah yes dudes :-) the fact that you read the post, and felt the need to reply to it is good, because good or bad, and opinion is an opinion. Canonskiboards is my name because it is a small grassroots company that im trying to help out by promoting. And phrosty, i respect you because you speak your mind, and all i want you to do is, read an adbusters cover to cover, and just let it sink in and tell me what you think. its not a fad, its whats going on in the world, thanks for the replys

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Sep 4 2003 8:10PM
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petek
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project mayhem baby!



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Sep 4 2003 9:14PM
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Papa
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^haha, yay




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Sep 4 2003 9:16PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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Support no brands at all. Make your own clothes. Thats what I do.

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Sep 4 2003 10:32PM
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What_A_Wookie
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canon is just as 'grassroot' as about any other company...and im sure not every brand nam,e was instantly a huge corporation...Had to come from somewhere
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Sep 4 2003 11:03PM
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Melvs
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well said... stupid topic.
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Sep 4 2003 11:25PM
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rhcp
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so will you hate canonskiboards if they become big?
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Sep 4 2003 11:42PM
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CTripper
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aren't you from canada anyway?
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Sep 4 2003 11:43PM
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MistaSkier
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Hmmm...according to the site you gave, big corporations are helping Bush to 'take over the world.' I never would have guessed.


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Sep 5 2003 12:52AM
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jtski
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?? im not anti corporation or anything.. but bush is trying to take over the world

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Sep 5 2003 12:56AM
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MistaSkier
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^ no he's not. he's too stupid even to consider that. he just wants oil, and so he decided to say we needed to kill Saddam Hussein since he treats his people so badly. So, we went in and killed thousands of his people and never touched him. I'm glad we helped those people.


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Sep 5 2003 1:00AM
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lineskier10
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yeah dude because you say so and because a few other people do too all of the companys in corporate america are going to donate all of their worth to charity and close themselves up, and leave their buildings for homeless people, do you even realize what would happen if what you wanted to happen happened, we would have nothing, no power, gas, not much food at all, no cars, anything electronic, not many ski mountains, no ski lifts, everyrthing that your used to would be gone
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Sep 5 2003 1:00AM
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MistaSkier
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^ true. The only corporation that I truly hate is Intrawest, and damn do I hate them.


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Sep 5 2003 1:12AM
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canonrider
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yes, i love the fact that people are taking interest in this. as for canon, they are truly a grassroots company who runs out of austria, and canon is one of a few small clients that the pressing company has. I would hate canon if they became so big that they got there pressing done somewhere for lower costs and shottier product. Also, canon has zero money for marketing, and no one knows about them, unlike brands you just cant help but think about like nike, coke, mcdonalds and the gap... its not a question of 'didnt every company start out small' because its true, its just the decisions they made when they got big that frusturates me. thanks for the replys again

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Sep 5 2003 5:06AM
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canonrider
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oh yea, and papa, i was just reading your first post, and you said something like 'if that happened it would whipe out all humans' dosent that sadden you? people wouldnt actually lose there lives if multi billion doller corporations stopped making money, sure everyone would wake up and realize theres more to life then the kind of jeans they wear and the sunglasses they have on... thanks for the imput dude

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Sep 5 2003 5:14AM
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canonrider
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hahahah aaannndddd ctripper, i said take our 'continent' back, because i knew someone would raise the point of me being from canada

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Sep 5 2003 5:16AM
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fidottio
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capitalism is good..i like strippers. and i double the you're a dork/goof comment and add that ur not oringinal and millions of people have the same opinion elsewhere..just not here
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Sep 5 2003 5:18AM
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canonrider
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Im by no means trying to be some wackjob leftwinger trying to show everyone the light. Its just my opinion and im tossing it everyones way, and a good majority of you are tossing yours back, its the beauty of it all isnt it?

thanks for the comments, keep the opinions coming
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Sep 5 2003 6:20AM
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CTripper
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i wasn't trying to be an ass or anything, i just noticed you said something about president.
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Sep 5 2003 8:33PM
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canonrider
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no worries brotha
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Sep 5 2003 8:57PM
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Jibtech
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'Your continent' is a gonner. Move to China.
Sep 5 2003 9:04PM
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OReJow
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an issue of adbusters is a poor substitute for an economics class. it's an interesting read, but you have to take it with a grain of salt.

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Sep 5 2003 9:23PM
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linejibber550
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^fuck u all, u wanna bitch move to canada, thats what im gonna do when im old enough because america sucks, but u dont have to bitch about it.


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Sep 5 2003 10:11PM
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coz
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what makes an economics class any better than an issue of adbusters, or more specifically the ideology that the media foundation maintains?
Sep 5 2003 11:03PM
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Capurnicus
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Scuess is not a sin. The sucess of American capitalism is not bad.

You, and Kalle Lasn can move to Cuba or China...I mean what do you want? What solution do you have? I mean would communism suit you better? Lets face it.....there's nothing better out there. Capitalism does have its flaws.....ok! But its working a hell of a lot better than a lot of other stuff.

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Sep 5 2003 11:13PM
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Capurnicus
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I see its your opinion...but its not really practical....you really not looking at how capitalism is better for the consumer and the economy.

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Sep 5 2003 11:14PM
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Capurnicus
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This thread sponsored by


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Sep 5 2003 11:14PM
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petek
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Good point capurnicus, however capitalism thrives in competition, massive corporationgs are buying there competitors, creating monopolies. This isnt capitalism at its best. Personally i hate the idea of capitalism, its too flawed, and it only benefits the rich by making them richer, creating huge gaps between rich and poor. Instead, as i said before S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M, is the way! People are rewarded with there contribution to society, and how hard they work. No money...and if it gets advanced, no supreme head of state. Believe it or not, the president is a dictator, because he has sole control over the military. Maybe not so much to his people, but to smaller countries around the world.



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Sep 6 2003 12:24AM
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canonrider
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thanks for the support coz, and linejibber, consumers are being brainwashed everywhere, america and canada are #1 and #2... so coming to canada wont change much if you want to stop being another fish in the barrel. Capurnicus, my solution? Im just one guy... but MY solution is have localized famers breeding/growing enough organic, cattle/vegetables for there territory, people living off the land instead of taking advantage of the resources and putting the earths state in a downward spiral, thats gonna wake everyone up one day.... our resources arent unlimited. If i had my way i wouldnt let anyone in the world work before they were 14.... corporations need limits. Capurnicus, thanks for your comments, keep em comin.

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Sep 6 2003 12:30AM
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Phrosty
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fuck that, farmers are a bunch of fucking loser sucking on the governments teat. Most are on wellfare and they recive other funds just for being farmers. I say we rape the rest of the world for their shit.


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Sep 6 2003 12:34AM
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canonrider
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Petek, socialism is already in the works in some parts of north america. For things you do that help your community, you recieve (the name of them escapes me) points that can be redeemed at participating stores. its a good thing thats going down these days, thanks for your comment petek....

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Sep 6 2003 12:37AM
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dpoiii
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IF i had a grass-roots company and could make tons of money why not? Look at Microsoft, they surely started from nothing, but since they were really smart now they are super rich..Why hold someone or a company back from being successful?
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Sep 6 2003 12:41AM
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rhcp
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you saying this is like saying you dont support progress. there is probably a reason we stopped getting our food by growing it ourselves and started driving and using what was availible. also, bush isnt after oil or world domination. also, bush isnt stupid. he has some good points and firm beliefs.
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Sep 6 2003 2:11AM
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What_A_Wookie
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hes someone who can actually go through with out something instead of sitting on his hands...
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Sep 6 2003 2:29AM
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canonrider
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if you could give me some reasons on bush's firm beleifs that would be great... in my eyes bush is a horrible dictator

thanks for your comments

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Sep 6 2003 2:40AM
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Capurnicus
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What? You're all a bunch of pinko commies!? Do you know what the hell you're talked about...I don't really know where to start

'capitalism, its too flawed, and it only benefits the rich by making them richer, creating huge gaps between rich and poor'

Are you freaking nuts? Large gaps between the rich and poor? I don't think you know what you're talking about...you're trying to tell me that our gaps are bigger than China or Cuba? Are you absolutely nuts??

Let me give you the definition of dictator:

dictator n 1: someone who rules unconstrained by law syn: potentate 2: behaves like a tyrant syn: authoritarian

'Believe it or not, the president is a dictator'

Umm no...no he's not. I think that congress and the supreme court and the constitution serve as the law which he is bound by. Bush is not a dictator...I'm sorry...he doesn't have ' sole control over the military.' He doesn't. He can't fight a whole war without the consent of congress....so he's not a dictator. I thought that is clear...its spelled out in the constitution. If you're saying he's a dictator you're saying the constitution doesn't exist...and I'm sorry...but it does.

'MY solution is have localized famers breeding/growing enough organic, cattle/vegetables for there territory, people living off the land instead of taking advantage of the resources and putting the earths state in a downward spiral, thats gonna wake everyone up one day'

This isn't 1840...that doesn't work anymore.

'If i had my way i wouldnt let anyone in the world work before they were 14'

You can't work unless you're 14 in the US. Now if you mean other countries...that's a stupid comment. If people don't work jobs in other countries given by our corporations they're more apt to starve....its that simple. Its an oppurtunity for them, even if it might not be the fairest job...it sure as hell beats starving.

Socialism just doesn't cut it...there's no progress. It would work on a desert island with 10 people. But in a society with millions of people it doesn't work. You're going to get the lazy people who don't work. It just doesn't happen!

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Sep 6 2003 4:47AM
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Phrosty
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I was looking for flight tracking information


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Sep 6 2003 4:49AM
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dpoiii
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Yea if socialism is so great let's hear an example of a good socialist country today
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Itsbackfliptime
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capurnicus got you good. I think some people just think theyre different and cool so they are just anti everything. Despite what you think these huge corporations and our government know what theyre doing.

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Sep 6 2003 5:52AM
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petek
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COMMUNISM ISNT THE SAME AS SOCIALISM!!!!!!(the USSR, even tho was socialist in the name, was COMMUNIST) The 2 most socialist areas in the world are norway, and austria. And look at the financial state they are in, a fuckload better then the us' recession.
a dictator is any1 with absolute power in government, if you dont think bush has any power to put down anything that lies ahead u are extremely naive. Not to mention, what is extreme right wing? FACISM, and FACISM requires a dictator to be head of state. Bush is a right wing fanatic, no matter what you say. Look at the facts, he's pro-life, has his beliefs strongly tied into religion and tradition, more money to the war effort, less to the poor, or VETERANS. Even u capurnicus cant say anything good about cutting veterans pay. Harsher criminal penalties.
Capurnicus, i'm gonna go on a limb here and assume that u are well off financially. Not everybody is, is that fair? Fuck no, it isnt fair whatsoever. It also isnt fair that the same ppl who work the same jobs recieve different pay due to there unions or lack thereof. Just as an example. Its not fair, WHATSOEVER, but it still happens. And what about this cut to overtime pay i am hearing about? People that are working HARDER, and MORE TIME, are not getting benefited from there companies? What the fuck? This isnt helping the majority of ppl, its helping the RICH minority become richer. While the poor are going to become poorer because of this decision. And there is no way you can argue with that, because ITS SIMPLE LOGIC. And if you say 'what about the companies, they are getn ripped off' then some1 should slap you, or you should live in a poor neighborhood for 1 year, see how fucking bad life can get. What difference does it make if a ceo has 1 billion, or 2 billion dollars, URE STILL FUCKING RICH, AND CAN BUY ALMOST EVERYTHING. What is the difference between 10,000 a year and 20,000 a year, HUGE. Maybe ure gonna rebuttle that this will help employment, and create better jobs or whatever, but that in itself is more naive. Its human nature as the reason why this wont work, exploit the workers for as cheap as you can get em, and the more money you make, the more aggression you will have to get more money. Means cheapskating even more ppl, firing ppl etc. Need an example? I have a friend who works at a bar, do you know who are the cheapest tippers? THE RICHEST PPL. Learn some sociology before you argue with this, the more you have, the less you give.



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Sep 6 2003 5:57AM
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canonrider
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itsbackfliptime, i think iv held myself in a reasonably mature fasion throughout this thread, and for people to say that i bring up these topics 'to be cool' is ridiculous. I do it to get people talking, to hear opinions, and to raise awareness, i want people to be more concious of the world around them.

Capurnicus, you have great opinions and i really enjoy hearing what you have to say. The reason i became interested in all of these left wing politics, is because about a year ago, i had a 2 hour cab ride with a 40 year old man from afghanistan. He told me about his life, and taught me more about history, politics, and economics then i could have ever learned from a class or an adbusters magazine.

Thanks again for all your comments, this is the last one for me,

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Sep 6 2003 5:59AM
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TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsJik
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yeah down with all brands and all corporations!! let's all live naked in the woods and smoke the reefer!!...for that truly is the only way to completely avoid corporate america and capitalism. In short, unless you do exactly that, then canonrider, you are a complete and absolute hipocrite. So check yourself son before you use your ignorance to rebel.



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Sep 6 2003 6:03AM
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Itsbackfliptime
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canonrider- I forgot to put that you seemed to have an interest in it and I wasnt talking about you. You have been mature.

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Sep 6 2003 6:08AM
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Capurnicus
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You're stupid. Seriously, noone wants your socialist attitude here. And don't even start in with this goddamn ' FACIST!' crap. I'll reply to this later.

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