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Choosing the right ski...

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danielson
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Hello everyone!
I am currently looking to buy some twins for this coming season.
These will be my only pair of skis, so I need a bit of versatility.

Skill: Int+ (I can rip blacks with no huge problems, the odd trip up but thats all)
Age: 22
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 130 lbs.
(yeah I know, I'm a skinny guy...)
Area: Ontario, Canada (East) groomers/park/bit of power

Since these will be my only set of skis I am willing to consider a variety of options and prices.
I want to get into the park but still be able to carve the groomers.
60% groomers / 40% park
Side Note: I like speed and freestyle, even off groomer hills I try and catch air.

I have been looking at a variety of models and I've been looking at:
Rossi Scratch Sprayer
Line Chronic
Moment Reno (or Reno Jib - is there any real difference other than being symmetrical?)

Also, what would be a good binding for groomer/park?

Thanks for the help!
Dan
Oct 31 2007 10:23AM
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mamapig
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the chronic for all around shredding
Oct 31 2007 10:43AM
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QuazBotch
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I'm 5'6, 120lb, and ski Ontario too.

I found the 168cm Scratch Sprayer FS isn't the greatest at making turns, even when the edges were sharp. I wouldn't be surprised if it got chattery at high speeds. It is pretty friendly in the park though.
Oct 31 2007 11:04AM
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skiP.E.I.
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Line Chronics; Volkl Wall, or Karma if you can find some from last year; K2 Public Enemy I also have heard that Moment is bombproof, but can't give a good opinion on them because I've never actually seen a pair. for bindings, I would recommend the Look px12s.
Oct 31 2007 12:18PM
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Deranged
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Chronics are good all mountain park skis.
Oct 31 2007 12:23PM
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K-Thomas
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i've got some atomic's for sale cheap. peep my threads if you're interested.
Oct 31 2007 12:33PM
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SkierX
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I'd go with chronics for a good all around ski that can haul ass.

They might seem pretty stiff to you though at 130lbs.

PS - Might I add that you are a freaking beanpole? Damn. I'm 6'0" and am 195, and am not fat by any means.
Oct 31 2007 1:08PM
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104
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Id really go with the rossi scratch, they ride like a park ski in the park, but also are equally as amazing on the mountin, there also probably the most rugged out of any ski ou there. if your looking for a ski that you will use year after year then the scratch is probably the best choose. 
Oct 31 2007 2:10PM
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Sharko
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He should note that this is the regular Scratch, NOT the sprayer. Even if you're skinny, I think the sprayer is gonna be too soft for you for all-mountain performance.
Oct 31 2007 2:15PM
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dave44
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I wouldn't imagine the Scratch Sprayer to be a decent all-round performer, if you want to ski 60% groomers 40% park. If you want a Rossignol ski, I'd say the '07 Scratch FS WRS would perform better than the Sprayer both in and out of the park. The FS WRS is really light, and the Moment Reno Jib is a pretty similar weight (it's really light). The Reno Jib is just a more park-orientated version of the Reno... now depending on where you want to mount, both can perform well all-mountain. If you're worried about tail-catch on mogul runs and stuff (if you do lots of moguls), then maybe you should go with the Reno. I don't know much about the Line Chronic, I've never been on one, but I can say that people do seem to have a pretty good opinion of it.

Another ski I would add to that list is the AR6. It's waist is pretty similar to the other skis, making it a good all-round performer on the hill. It's been considered as a pretty solid ski too, though it may be heavier compared to the Reno Jibs & Scratch FS WRS (I'm not sure about this).
Oct 31 2007 2:22PM
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Sharko
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You might consider the Line Blend too. It seems like you like high speeds and a lot of carving, the Blend out-carves the Chronic even though it has a wider waist.
Oct 31 2007 2:33PM
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DskiC
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I really like my chronics, just don't hit to big a jump it will break your skinny lil legs.
Oct 31 2007 3:13PM
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spiegel
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yea ok, im at 5'9" 140 lbs, last year i was around 130.  I've hit plenty of jumps and I've never had problems with my legs *knock on wood*

I've actually banged up my upper body more than my lower body.
Oct 31 2007 3:16PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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chronics are a super versatile ski, great on groomers, kill it in the park and can still handle some pow. i'd go for chronics for sure.
Oct 31 2007 3:29PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Pontoons with any plastic salomon 8 din binding.  This setup will rip so hard



Oct 31 2007 3:48PM
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mizzike
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Dynastar trouble makers 176 with the matching px 12's
Oct 31 2007 4:23PM
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DskiC
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Yeah I was just kidding.
Oct 31 2007 4:24PM
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midwestfreeski3
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Yea I would definately look into the Scartch Ghettos.  They are fairly light, stiff enough to be an all mountain ski and perform great in the park.  When I bought mine last year I demod almost all park skis  and for a "park" ski they riped everwhere on the mountain better than ever other ski I rode
Oct 31 2007 5:28PM
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Bodeau.
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Either the chronics or blends for sure
Oct 31 2007 5:52PM
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Silence
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you dont want those bindings on that ski - something like Rossi Comp J's would be better
Oct 31 2007 5:56PM
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poofartpee
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get the chronic or the sprayer...chronic if u like a stiff ski, sprayer if u like a soft ski
Oct 31 2007 7:29PM
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gabfreeski
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salomon foil very good all mountain skis
Oct 31 2007 8:59PM
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danielson
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Awesome!
Thanks very much for all of the responses.
I just got home from work so I think it will take a while to soak everything in.
I was also looking at the Volkl's. They do look like some pretty sweet skis.

Yes I am a beanpole but I'm also very athletic. I've taken the same risks as some of my buddies and they are the ones coming out with concussions and the dislocated shoulders, etc. I can hold my own...


I guess the overall consensus is a 174-180 in length. I normally ski a 178ish. Do Twins ride shorter than usual?
Nov 1 2007 4:13AM
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LC.
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Troublemakers, or Scratch FS (or whatever they call the new one) if you want a bit more width. Both ski very nicely - good groomer skis if you like to rip them.
Nov 1 2007 7:28AM
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skiP.E.I.
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No that sounds about right
Nov 1 2007 8:49AM
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danielson
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So I just bought my new boots: 06/07 Salomon SPK's.

As far as skis I have decided to narrow in on:
1. Rossignol Scratch FS WRS (Rossi binding??)
2. Dynastar Troublemaker with Look px12
3. Volkl Wall (i just can't take my eyes off of these skis...) with Look px12
4. Moment Reno (not sure if its a possibility due to availability)

Is there a binding similar to the px12 anywhere? Or is it just the better of the jib bindings?

Thanks again for all the input. Any final words on these 4 sets of skis?
Nov 2 2007 7:11PM
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chazz.
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blends for sure
Nov 2 2007 9:22PM
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skiP.E.I.
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the Walls for sure, with the px12s would be great. I think Salomon bindings are  lighter, the STH series, but I have seen many durability problems with Salomon bindings in the past.
Nov 5 2007 4:52PM
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danielson
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I walked into a local store and they were trying to sell me 06/07 Salomon Thursters?
Whats everyone's take on those?
Nov 5 2007 5:25PM
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LC.
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They'd be good for you too. If the price is good on those then that's a good option.
Nov 5 2007 5:39PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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out of the 4 skis you mentioned i'd go with the volkl walls, but i'd take in account the brigdes too... and don't rule out the chronic. px12's or jibs will be fine.
Nov 5 2007 6:04PM
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wakeskier
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Yeah, Volkl Bridges are badass
Couple other skis great for east coast park & groomers:
Scott P3
Elan M02

Those would be my 3 top choices right there.
Nov 5 2007 6:13PM
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danielson
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Was really considering the Elan MO2 but I closed in on a pair of 174 Scratch FS WRS so my ski hunt is over. Just need some binders. Thinking of the Rossi 120s...
Nov 5 2007 11:18PM
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LC.
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MO2s are amazing, think they changed the same though.
Nov 6 2007 5:38AM
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LineGhettoBlaster
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nordica ignitions would be good for you too they are great on groomers becuase of there sidecut and kill it in the park
Nov 6 2007 6:44AM
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skiP.E.I.
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if they are significantly cheaper than the otehr options, get them, they seem to be a solid ski, although, the topsheet ripped of one of my friends'
Nov 6 2007 9:00AM
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ValPow
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graphics wise i think that they look llike they have been designed for kids.

what about pe's for this guy, just to throw a spanner in the works
Nov 6 2007 9:28AM
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