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Enough 1 hit shots

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jea_killa
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I want to see more than 1 hit shots in movies in the park. I want to see lines or something other than just one jump, many hits, next jump somewhere else, many hits, urban rail, ect.
Oct 19 2007 6:26AM
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spwrozek
Posts: 184 - Karma: 10
it is to hard to get clean movie quality follow cam shots.  The movie would not look near as good.  You can maybe set up for two jumps or two rails in a row but that is about it. They are trying to make a masterpiece and the cleaner and better shots they have for the film the better it will turn out.
Oct 19 2007 8:14AM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
Cable-cams and ziplines would make it all possible.
Oct 19 2007 8:16AM
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fouldsys
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werd. that would be dope
Oct 19 2007 8:28AM
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Steakhead
Posts: 490 - Karma: 233
Sammy in SSD there are several 3-4 hit sessions
Oct 19 2007 12:06PM
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manzear
Posts: 843 - Karma: 849
I liked in Skimatic when they would do follow cam of like 3 tables in row...and i agree that is more interesting to watch because it seems more real...
Oct 19 2007 12:10PM
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drewishish
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i loved that! that would be so sick if htere were more.
Oct 19 2007 12:23PM
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GUZ
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yeah his switch tree was so sick
Oct 19 2007 12:29PM
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sHrEdAgE
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real time had a sick one with a heli
Oct 19 2007 12:31PM
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skiEER
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the tricks are not going to be nearly as nice if you have more then one hit shots
Oct 19 2007 1:19PM
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R.Fahey
Posts: 8602 - Karma: 539
I would say it's because most park jumps in a movie are for photo shoots.  It takes a lot of snow, cat hours, time, money to build that one hit.  Two is just silly. 

and as far as BC..... finding a good jump spot and building a kicker is hard enough, muchless two.  the only time i've seen it done was Afterlame.
Oct 19 2007 1:51PM
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-justice-
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ya skimatic had some good ones.  It'd be better to have some more line shots to give the movie more flow. 
Oct 19 2007 2:00PM
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albatross.
Posts: 4380 - Karma: 772
cable cams and ziplines! oh you guys!

how about a deathlense (fish for jumps) and a filmer that knows how to ski. Im backing this thread, maybe having to film lines would finally make some of these guys do some new tricks.
Oct 19 2007 2:03PM
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R.Fahey
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yeah.  maybe you've not been watching Andreas Hatveits segments the last two years... or perhaps you didn't see any JOI footy.  Orrr, maybe you didn't see Seven Sunny days.  It's kinda scary jumping 80+ feet with a 10 pound camera, that costs $5000. 
Oct 19 2007 2:12PM
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ECfreeski3
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lines rarel can be edited into te segment well IMO
Oct 19 2007 2:13PM
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skimanskimanskim
Posts: 1515 - Karma: 1,715
Tom followed me on COC's 80 + ft stepup with our VX. I'm not sure how much it weighs but I thought that was pretty rediculous
Oct 19 2007 2:26PM
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albatross.
Posts: 4380 - Karma: 772
haha i agree with you 100%... but if you didn't notice all those shots are 1 hit shots. And your followcam camera is usually alot cheaper and less heavy than $5000, think VX2.
Oct 19 2007 2:29PM
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skimanskimanskim
Posts: 1515 - Karma: 1,715
I dont think he was saying anything about his camera (4bi9's) or their follows.
Oct 19 2007 2:37PM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
Follow cams are shaky and not the greatest quality. A whole video of them would be ugly and very unpleasant to watch. Zip-lines and cablecams would still allow for smooth video shots that could be integrated into a video much better.
Oct 19 2007 3:23PM
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ISkiSwitch
Posts: 3157 - Karma: 22
plus the angles would be awesome the way a smooth cable line goes above the skiers head. That'd be sick.
Oct 19 2007 3:28PM
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nothanks
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Maybe the problem with the whole "lots of snow and cat time hours" is because we're trying to be way too extreme.

Lets build the biggest kicker we can for another double-flip combo.

The movies I like best, for the most part are snowboard movie with a certain style. Think Blank Paper Studios. A nice mix of fun, creative tricks. Lines. A smattering of big mountain stuff. Banger tricks off a one or two jump BC set up.
Oct 19 2007 3:34PM
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N.Skinner
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Also in Happy Hour in Wittlakes opening section i believe there are a few....
Oct 19 2007 3:46PM
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Itsbackfliptime
Posts: 18901 - Karma: 75
I honestly don't care about what happens when skiing between two jumps. Do you really just want to watch slopestyle runs? It is also way harder to edit when you can't cut out the boring skiing part.
Oct 19 2007 3:49PM
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[~_~]
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Follow cams are really hit or miss. Either they are extravagent or they are awful.


Besides, heavier cam = smoother follows. And death lenses are bunk for follows because you have to be 2 feet away from the skier for them to look good, and that is SCERRRYY!
Oct 19 2007 4:00PM
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fourhundred
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andreas hatveits part in yeah dude on that sick urban
Oct 19 2007 4:30PM
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Pirruccio
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yea snowboarding has been using ziplines and it looks amazing

and i agree sets look so dope
Oct 19 2007 5:35PM
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dead
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yeah, but nobody would make an entire movie of park lines. you still have handrail shots and throw in some stills.

if your shots are so shakey that you can't make stuff out properly or something then it really just falls on the guy taking the shots. it can be done very well though, look at skateboarding!

zip line shots seem really dumb and not at all worth the effort. the only time they seem practical is in the pipe, and pipe sucks.
Oct 19 2007 7:24PM
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seider
Posts: 958 - Karma: 23
you could have a really big pole cam instead of a zipline

but you could have a zipline attached to the chairlift supports, but that wouldnt be that long, but if there are any trees around attach them to those.
Oct 19 2007 8:01PM
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jibsticks
Posts: 57 - Karma: 10
Seven Sunny Days has nice lines.
Carlsons part is sick
Oct 19 2007 8:23PM
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SIX
Posts: 4595 - Karma: 506
Charles Gagnier in Skimatic has some in his segment. Like a part where he kills four-fives rails in a row, a part where he kills several kickers in a row if I remember well and a part where he slides then does a litlle urban drop.
Oct 19 2007 8:26PM
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hemlockjibber8
Posts: 5953 - Karma: 3,450
I agree with this thread too.

Yes its hard, thats the point. more cred to the filmer and more cred to the skier if he does multiple good tricks. The same reason follow cam lines are more cred in skate vids. its harder to do 6 good tricks clean, in a row, than 1 ultra mega trick by itself. The same reason why Tanners segment in PYB was so sick, because half his shit was stuck first try. Things like this give you something to think about with the athletes abililties.

there was a double booter line in The Front LIne.

There was a multi jump line in Focused (ithink) when Pollard joined Mack Dawg on their timberline shoot.

Zip lines are doable. Hell MSP has a heli flying 90% of the time. Why not film Brecks big line rather than building the same old at Whistler?
Oct 19 2007 8:44PM
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jibsticks
Posts: 57 - Karma: 10
www.skifilm.com

Go to TV,

Theres some lines
Oct 19 2007 9:34PM
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Jwalk
Posts: 4647 - Karma: 134
trail on sled
Oct 19 2007 10:10PM
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FUUUCK
Posts: 18426 - Karma: 4,888
not close to as easy as it sounds
Oct 19 2007 10:20PM
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cousinmark
Posts: 939 - Karma: 29
yes agreed. one hit shots are boring as hell.  it isnt that hard to do film lines. snowboard flicks got plenty of em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!its just lack of creativity.   i dont see what technical problems getting a line, bombing down a trail with mad rollers, throwing nasty rotations of em on film poses.
Oct 20 2007 2:58PM
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JPOB
Posts: 423 - Karma: 266
well if we all had a helecopter on our hands...
Oct 20 2007 3:26PM
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wlm
Posts: 477 - Karma: 176
check out www.fieldproductions.com they have the sickest follows..  look at first thing in shredding in colorado..


the one that follow cams in x-games makes it smooth ! :D ^^
Oct 20 2007 3:40PM
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joly.sp
Posts: 2305 - Karma: 585
yeah, that was what i was going to say. It was really cool becuase it was at night on a rail
Oct 20 2007 7:40PM
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