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bakerpunk
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tommorw me and my friends are going to get snow from the skateing rink and i was wondering how much time we would have to slide the rail befor there was no snow and if there was anything that helped not melt as fast






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Aug 25 2003 2:16AM
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alpentalik
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salt

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Aug 25 2003 2:19AM
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dr.awkward
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salt wouldn't really help if its 30 degrees out. there is nothing really you can do. just get a lot
Aug 25 2003 2:22AM
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alpentalik
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youd be surprised

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Aug 25 2003 2:23AM
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bakerpunk
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i will try it isn't that what they use to melt snow on icey roads







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Aug 25 2003 2:31AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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yes but if you use it on big piles of snow it causes it to melt and refreeze makes snow rock hard they use it on our jumps in the park around spring.


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Aug 25 2003 2:48AM
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123ski
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um.....there is already a chemical in it that keeps it cold at 50 degrees.....dont eat the snow though
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Aug 25 2003 6:18AM
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ColoradoFlats
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hahaha
Aug 25 2003 6:56PM
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bigtreefallhard
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i love eating snow its so good
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Aug 25 2003 8:16PM
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bakerskia180
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Whats the chemical called
Aug 25 2003 8:21PM
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Astomp
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salt is a catalyst. it will speed up any process which is taking place. like when you boil water and noodles you put in a pinch of salt. it speeds up the boil. there wont really be a refreezing process so i dont really think it will help.
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Aug 25 2003 8:48PM
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seward
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^ this guy knows his shit

salt probably wont do anything so i suggest making whatever your making at night when the temp is cooler


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Aug 25 2003 9:08PM
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alpentalik
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no he doesnt know his shit...why would every summer ski camp salt their lanes to solidify the snow? they do it because it works...they wouldnt waste the thousands of dollars on hundreds and hundreds of fifty pound bags of the shit...

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Aug 25 2003 11:20PM
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gambino500014
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this is true... and at snowjam they throw bags and bags of snow on the quarter to help it last longer......
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Aug 25 2003 11:24PM
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kootneyskibum
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me and my buds used ice. we fuckin all made ice cubes for a week or so and used them as a base. it kinda worked i guess,
Aug 25 2003 11:34PM
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Astomp
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your on a glacier too...its kinda different.
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Aug 26 2003 1:25AM
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Astomp
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seriously think about it. when your on 4 feet of glacier its a bit different of course the snow may re freeze or slow down because when it melts it goes to more ice thats been cold the whole time. but whne there is only 5 to 8 inches of snow in 60 degree weather it will still be different.
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Aug 26 2003 1:30AM
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Skier10322
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as long as the layer of snow is more than about an inch think than use salt. The only hting not to do is put salt on the ground first. Not that we have tried this but we tried to do a rail where they put salt on the ground earlier that day and it never worked and was a huge waste of time.
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Aug 26 2003 3:46AM
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alpentalik
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OF COURSE THINK ABOUT IT...jeebus shit man...go fucking get some snow or shit from an ice rink, slap it in front of you and sprinkle some fuckin salt on it...SEE WHAT HAPPENS...dont fucking try to play smarter than me...your just speculating, i know the facts, its called experience.

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Aug 26 2003 6:41AM
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360spins
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^ wisest thing I have heard in a while. Got news - all the time that you were asking - your SNOW MELTED WHILE YOU WERE WAITING!
Aug 26 2003 7:44AM
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Crystal-needs-a-park
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it's not normal table salt, it's special solar salt, and yes astopms a fuck up and yes the salt melts the top layer of snow which then refreezes and makes it harder... but is not regular salt either.
Aug 26 2003 9:04AM
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360spins
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Christ. Ok, its Calcium Chloride, not Sodium Chloride, but whatever. A 'salt' is a 'salt' no matter what 2 ions its made of. If you don't know what this means at all, go ask your science teacher at School. What it does is lower the melting temperature of water to keep you from falling on your ass on the front steps. (The ice melts when its colder, get it?)

Here we go - that means that the snow is melting faster, because it can melt at a lower temperature. A 10% salt solution can melt at -6 instead of 0. The salt draws the water from the ice due to that whole gradient of a solution thing.

The salt draws the water out from the ice, and makes the water effectively thinner. This helps to then bond the ice crystals. The goal here is not to make the ice last longer, but to make it harder and faster. The salt speeds up the melting, makes the ice harder by bonding the crystals, and there you go. Faster snow.

So with all that said - HOW BORING IS ALL THAT? Go ride and don't sweat it.

Aug 26 2003 10:11AM
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^ no this guy knows his shit...





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Aug 26 2003 3:59PM
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NickMartini
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he sounds smart i would listen to him^^^^
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Aug 26 2003 4:02PM
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KingShit
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damn....
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Aug 26 2003 5:04PM
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hanklambo
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carry it in trash cans... spread it.. shape it.. salt it.. ride it.. itll be fine
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Aug 26 2003 5:12PM
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sherLocke
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astomp17 salt does not make water boil faster man. it raises the boiling of the water. which means it takes more energy to get it boiling, which means it takes longer to boil. people put salt in the water to allow the water to be hotter at its boiling point, so it cooks stuff faster.
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Aug 26 2003 8:24PM
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Astomp
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what i ment i just didnt know how to say it ...cooks it faster i think i need to go back to science anyone wanna host a class.
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i sure would like to rest ... but the energy gets the best of me. its been a wild ride i wouldnt change a minute i cant slow down inside guess thats why i live it
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Aug 26 2003 9:17PM
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alpentlaik dowesnt no shyt/

he sits around all day and makes oragami/

check da teck/
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Aug 27 2003 12:33AM
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Astomp
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^^so dont take what he said to heart?
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i sure would like to rest ... but the energy gets the best of me. its been a wild ride i wouldnt change a minute i cant slow down inside guess thats why i live it
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Aug 27 2003 1:01AM
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Itsbackfliptime
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hahahahahaha origami. You use salt when you make homemade ice cream. It makes the ice colder.

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Aug 27 2003 2:16AM
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//d-lite//
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do i look leik im affended or something?

i was just makn a point

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Aug 27 2003 11:21PM
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