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Gavajabra2
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'07 Jeep Grand Cherokee, it's perfect. It has size to be the grocery getter, or the family person. It has the Srt-8 engine to be fast and fun. It has AWD if you want to do a little off-roading
Aug 15 2007 8:58PM
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Mezmerize19
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So does the Lamborghini but you dont see that looking like crap
Aug 17 2007 1:31AM
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josh.
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they look simaler but every one has opinons yours is there ugly mine is there nice o well

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Aug 17 2007 1:39AM
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Mezmerize19
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I like those rims...
Aug 17 2007 1:40AM
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zerospinskier
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False, MY car is the perfect car!
Aug 17 2007 4:44AM
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unchyll
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i have a 99 grand cherokee and its a thug.....
i heard the new jeeps have been having lots of problems?
true or not?
Aug 17 2007 8:33AM
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japanada
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define problems. there were some little erros that were found when it was released in 05, but they are all 10 minute fixes under warrenty.
Aug 17 2007 11:53AM
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josh.
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my 96 jeep has problems transmision gear box differntial cooling system...
Aug 17 2007 4:29PM
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japanada
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no suck thing. the 42res do suck though, and thats what you have.
Aug 17 2007 5:17PM
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ijibgoremtn
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my new 1.8t is sick... jet black to
Aug 17 2007 5:21PM
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Wis_Skier_23
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viper is where its at
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIhEvNtH9Yg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu2uo66nP08
Aug 17 2007 10:20PM
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GFProd.
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where do you put your ski gear in that?
Aug 17 2007 10:25PM
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BSI
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The only American CAR deserving of notice in this thread is the Saleen S7
Aug 17 2007 11:48PM
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ijibgoremtn
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i think i see intercoolers so im gonna assume thats the new one with like 1100 hp and a twin turbo....epic
Aug 17 2007 11:50PM
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martin.
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One that never has to be repaired of filled up with gas
Aug 17 2007 11:51PM
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skiaspen17
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No Man The "Perfect Car is a 1975 dodge Dart! it is the most beautiful machinery that you will ever lay your eyes on! If that doesn't float your boat then try the 2000 Saab 900 turbo! Both amazing ass cars...if you don't believe me then just go test any of these sick ass cars! Trust me! The Jeep Grand Cherokee doesn't have shit on either of those dream machines! believe it!
Aug 18 2007 12:05AM
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unchyll
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the .8 liter jeeps hold up the best out of all of the jeeps made
Aug 18 2007 12:08AM
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4frntSkier
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get an evo

Aug 18 2007 1:04AM
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japanada
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huhhh???? .8L engine?
Aug 18 2007 5:04AM
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unchyll
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cylinder*
Aug 18 2007 5:29AM
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13stripes
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im like what the fuck too, he must mean in the jeep lawn mowers
Aug 18 2007 7:05AM
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Armada08
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sick car WRX but i like my lancer evolution better


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Aug 18 2007 8:40AM
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grifter
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I'm trying to buy a Jeep Wrangler unlimited, enough room for ski gear and ski girls, but seriously the best car is the Ford GT40...
Aug 18 2007 9:23AM
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Shpadoinkle
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jesus dude.
Aug 18 2007 9:36AM
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Shpadoinkle
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oh man. i can't believe i forgot about the bugatti veyron. w16. SWEET!
Aug 18 2007 9:39AM
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SkierX
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You do realize that a turbochargers total peak output capacity is MUCH greater than a supercharger?
Aug 18 2007 10:39AM
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13stripes
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uhhhhh no, the only reason small cars suck as subys have turbos is they spool up faster then superchargers giving boost faster superchargers ram about twice as much air into the car as a turbo
Aug 18 2007 10:48AM
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Ryno
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Aug 18 2007 10:48AM
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japanada
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s/c give instant boost. turbos have lag cause they take time to make boost.
Aug 18 2007 10:54AM
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Scolson
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This whole post is completely wrong.


You obviously have NO idea what you're talking about.
"superchargers ram about twice as much air into the car as a turbo" hahahahahaha
Aug 18 2007 12:18PM
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13stripes
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nice
Aug 18 2007 12:56PM
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SkierX
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Thank you for proving my point that you know absolutely NOTHING on the subject.
Aug 18 2007 2:36PM
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tronnnnnnn
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first of all, if you knew wrx's and sti's you would know you that all a bov is screw shit up by running lean......the stock one is the best.... second of all, the turbo in a wrx cannot handle more than 18pounds of pressure, an sti, no more than 21....a 20g green turbo cant even handle 70lbs
Aug 18 2007 3:04PM
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tronnnnnnn
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and you forgot engine management. you couldn't put any of those engine or exhaust parts on without em like cobb AccessPort V2.0......intake is pointless too, no performance gains,just better sound which can be accomplished by just taking off the stock snorkus silencer.....and what is this turbo piping your talking about??? an uppipe and downpipe??? i believe thats exhaust dummy......
Aug 18 2007 3:10PM
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Wis_Skier_23
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good question.....haven't figured that out yet
Aug 18 2007 4:34PM
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doritos
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Wait.. a Legacy or a WRX? You just named Subaru's best model and its worst model, why not the middle ones?

Dream car would definitely be an STi. Current car is a 96 Subaru Impreza Outback, I don't think I'll buy anything but Subaru ever again... love that car. Maybe a Volkswagen, but that's about it.
Aug 18 2007 4:42PM
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squeakywaffle
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what does that mean?

The blower on a top fuel dragster allows that motor to produce ~8000 hp... and the turbo'd motor on a WRX puts out ~230 hp.

Both systems have advantages and drawbacks compared to each other, but if there was a clear solution then either turbochargers or superchargers would not exist today. I would lean towards turbos being the wave of the future (especially with all the crazy technology we have been seeing lately, like variable-vane turbos and exotic materials) but superchargers are out there and they do make a hell of a lot of power in some applications.
Aug 18 2007 4:44PM
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SkierX
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Comparing a Top Fuel Dragster to a street setup turbo designed for response is as moronic as one could possibly get.

There are also turbochargers on ships, and locomotives, ya know trains, which create tens of thousands of horsepower.

A supercharger will allow a more broad range of availiable power, but it is not as capable as a well fitted turbocharger that is correctly mated with the engines flow and purpose.

Which brings me to my next point, Top Fuel Dragsters use superchargers because instant off the line low end power is required for an event with such a short distance covered and where response time is so important.
Aug 18 2007 7:46PM
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cab509
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WARNING: This post has educational information, skip to bottom if you don't care.

here;s what I know about Turbo's and superchargers and it's pretty correct to my knowledge.


Turbo's: will make more top end power and have a higher peak output than a supercharger because, since Turbo's are not in anyway linked to the engine revs they can spin faster than the engine actually is pushing more air into the engine and with proper tuning will create more TOP end power than a supercharger.


Superchargers: Being belt driven off of the crankshaft the supercharger has a rev limit equal to that of the engine. That being said, because of this belt drive they have more LOW end power than Turbo's produce because they do not need to wait to spool, but will not gain as much Top end power.

Both Turbo's and Supercharger's have there places and certain engines lean towards certain types of forced induction. Superchargers will produce more LOW end power can allow you to have quicker 0-60 times because of an increase in torque in the lower powerband, while turbo's will give you more TOP end power and a higher Top speed along with improved 0-60's

Now as technology progresses and Turbo's implement things like VVT (variable vain technology), lighter alloy's, ball bearings, etc, the spool time is getting less and less the larger the turbo gets, but as said before the engine and application of what you want to do can be the deciding factor in if you want to turbo or supercharge your car in the forced induction route.

then there is also the dying art of N/A engines.



And my perfect car would have to be about 5 different cars because you can't create one car that satisfies every need.

the list would look something like this

DD - B5 RS4 (modified)
race - Dahlback Quattro
OFF Road- Hummer H1 Alpha (moded by Banks)
Fun - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 be Hamann
Fun (2) - 1970 Hemi 'Cuda
Fun (3) - Ferrari F40
Fun (4) - McLaren F1 LM
there are a Few of my favs


Sorry for the long post.
Aug 18 2007 8:19PM
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squeakywaffle
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Do you understand why I made that comparison? Please say you do.

My point (because you were apparently too moronic to figure it out) was that comparing 'a turbocharger' to 'a supercharger' gives me total license to pick whichever one I want from either category. If you want to sound smart, then try making a specific statement that actually contains information next time, buddy.

WHICH TURBO AND WHICH BLOWER WERE YOU COMPARING?

Turbochargers (like you said) are more efficient than blowers, and are used to great effect on large engines also- but in these cases, such as trains (where large diesels drive an alternator) and ships, the engine is run at a constant RPM for a long time. These engines, though, suffer from insane turbo lag because the mass of the turbine and compressor means they don't spin up fast. There is no way current turbo technology could come anywhere close to performing as well as a blower in an application like top fuel dragster racing.

You seem to understand at least the basic differences between turbos and blowers (maybe you took a quick trip to wikipedia) but your first post was idiotic. The debate between turbos and blowers is far from black and white, and you'd have to be a fucking retard not to understand why.
Aug 19 2007 12:11AM
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mski
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ive got an 05 jeep grand cherokee...thing is super legit. Decent gas mileage for an SUV too! lots of room for stuff and the sound system in mine at least isnt half bad!
Aug 19 2007 12:13AM
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josh.
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my favorite supercar
ford gt
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Aug 19 2007 5:07PM
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doritos
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Back to NS after a brief boxer change. Needless to say, I agree.
Aug 19 2007 6:32PM
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thenakedcellist
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comon guys gota go with this...

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think about how much sex you could have in the back of this badboy

Aug 19 2007 6:38PM
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troutbum
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5 series wagon. It's so perfect that it brings tears to my eyes, especially in hunter green.

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Aug 19 2007 6:40PM
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Scolson
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none because everyone will think you're a weird pedo for driving a minivan
Aug 19 2007 8:08PM
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PacificRimJob
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I highly disagree. I have a Jeep GC, and I fucking hate the shitty gas mileage.

Get an old subaru dude... seriously.
Aug 19 2007 8:09PM
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kickerlicker
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WORD
Aug 20 2007 1:31AM
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*rkp*
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too bad that's a 3 series. idiot.
Aug 20 2007 4:13AM
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troutbum
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hmm, not sure why I typed 5 series, they're too big for my liking.
Aug 20 2007 12:15PM
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Shpadoinkle
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ya. too bad she almost killed 5 people today in my old high schools parking lot with it. that car's in the wrong hands. oh the things i could do with that car.
Aug 20 2007 2:36PM
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