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'07 Jeep Grand Cherokee, it's perfect. It has size to be the grocery getter, or the family person. It has the Srt-8 engine to be fast and fun. It has AWD if you want to do a little off-roading
2005 WRX STI
upgraded turbo piping, upgraded turbo, blowoff valve, frontmount intercooler, rebuilt top end, blueprint and balenced block, full exauhst, intake, re done wireing system, no AC, strupped trunk, upper and lower sway bars. 15 way adjustable suspension. lowered inch a and a half from stock,blacked out.
thats about all i can think of off the top of my head. that setup would be about 30 grand. really not to bad in reality.
The perfect car would be the Subaru WRC... that would be the best thing to drive. even if it was just on the street... coming in at a close second id say is the STi WR1 or and EVO VIII FQ 400 maybe even the Airborne Mini
i might also add that that car would smoke almost anything. it would be pushing at least 500 hp at like 14 pounds of boost which is nothing. the stock turbo can handle 30 psi, i would be getting ne that could take in the neighborhood of 70psi. lol.
The B5 RS4+ would be better. at least 410hp/400-something lb torque, but you get the 6 speed. Not to mention any A6 variant looks like complete shit. And the loss of a few horsepower and torque would be completely acceptable to get the stick over tiptronic crap.
Alright, shove that Cayenne back up your ass dude. It's not hot, it's an overpriced piece of German shit. It makes me ashamed to be of German descent. In my mind, Porsche makes ONE car, count it 1. That being the 911 Turbo, nothing else. So get your Cayenne out of here, the VW Touareg is better than the Cayenne, even though they both suck balls. The VW's TDI has something like 500 lbs of torque and doesn't cost $120K.
B5 RS4 is 375bhp and 325 ft-lbs tq. 2.7L v6 twin-turbo. 6 speed MT.
C5 RS6 was produced from model years 2002-2004, based off the A6 body style It has a 4.2L twin-turboxharged V8 with 450bhp and 415 ft-lbs tq with a very wide power band with peak torque available anywhere between 1950 to 5600 RPMs which is a very broad range.
The transmission was a 5-speed tiptronic.
A few magazines tested the car.
0-60 MPH of 4.3s
0-100 MPH of 10.4s
0-150 MPH of 26.8s
1/4 mile at 12.63s @ 109 MPH
60-0 MPH braking distance of 115 feet (the lighter RS4 needs 155 feet from the same speed)
RS4+ has 410hp, check out the June 2006 Eurotuner, it has a breakdown of all the RS cars leading up to the new RS4. Stock RS4's have 380hp at 6300rpm and 325 ft/lbs at 2500rpm. The RS4+ is factory tuned, has stiffer suspension and a few smaller mods.
All that said, I'd sill rather have the C5 RS6. It can be tuned for more power, and is overall a more potent performer. And anyone saying A6 Avants aren't good looking are retarded.
You can easily bypass the power output on the RS4 with the RS6.
There is no replacement for displacement.
A modern design 4.2L TT V8 has more potential than a 2.7L TT V6.
You will not only see more peak output, but you will see a much broader torque curve.
All this is not even entertaining the fact that there is a RS6+ which puts out 480bhp with an even further upgraded suspension for further increased handling.
Performance-wise, the RS6 has slightly increased performance, and I would prefer it for its increased utility space as well in avant form. I happen to like C5 avants.
Personally, I would rather stuff an 8 cylinder engine in a truck or a rear wheel drive sports car/sports sedan or an old muscle car. Something, where I could play with the power a little bit, I like oversteer, gives you some excitement on snowy roads. A twin turbo 6 cylinder in an AWD sports sedan/wagon would do the trick for just about everyone.
As the owner of a decently powered AWD car that I drove in the winter, it had plenty of oversteer. And oversteer can easily be changed on dry pavement by altering suspension geometry or simple changes in suspension components like swaybars.
What do you drive? I had a 2001 A4 1.8T Quattro 5 speed, it was lowered a wee bit, with stiffer springs. And it had some wicked understeer on less than ideal conditions. I'd rather have more power to the rear wheels. I know with torque convertors it can be changed, the new RS4 is 40% front and 60% rear for power distribution.
Currently I have a 1996 Subaru Legacy Outback and a 1991 Toyota MR2 Turbo which is my autocross car.
My prior all-around car was a modded 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD.
As for understeer and oversteer, a FWD car can oversteer, if suspension angles and components are adjusted correctly.
My MR2 was setup to oversteer less than stock due to the dangers of snap oversteer on that year car. It was outfitted with a suspension setup from a '94 MR2 where the suspension had been revised, and was given wheel spacers to further widen the track and help reduce the chances of snap oversteer.
As for getting more competent handling from your A4, you'll want to look for a larger/stiffer rear swaybar. Which will stiffen the roll tendencies of the rear suspension. Another way to simulate the changes is by adjust tire pressure. When autocrossing my DSM, I would often run 5+ PSI more in the rear tires because it would help the rear end rotate more easily.
Between than and driver technique, it is easy to get an AWD car to oversteer, ESPECIALLY in adverse weather.
.Wow, you guys are idiots. I understand it's a street car, but when I meant "off-roading" I meant it is AWD so yes, it has some grip if you drive on a bumpy road or somehting. I'm not talking about driving through 3 foot creeks and going through mud-pits. I know it's an SRT-8, and SRT means Street Road Technology, which I also know it's meant for the street. I love subaru impreza's sure, but it's not as "roomy" as a SRT-8 Grand Cherokee which is a reason it's such a well rounded car.