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Jorgen.
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Ok to start I'm 5'9-10, 150 pounds and I'll be skiing the west coast(Mt.Washington for those of you who know were that is). I ski about 40% park and 50% everywere else. I have found a pair of Line Elizabeths at my local shop that are on sale for a price that I can afford but before I get em I have a couple of questions about the ski. Right now I'm riding the Armada ARV in 175, what is the flex on the Elizabeths compared to the ARV? Are the Elizabeths too short or will I not notice a difference in length from my ARV's? Were should I mount the Elizabeths and with what bindings?
Jun 28 2007 1:45AM
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strode
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where do you have your arv's mounted? if you get elizabeths, mount them on their center mount position for sure (-2cm from dead center i believe). lizzies are probably going to be softer than your arv's (they're softer than most anything), but i couldn't tell you for sure.

if you're only going to have one ski, it shouldn't be elizabeth though. they are just too soft for plowing through broken up snow and they don't like to go straight at all.

if i were you, i would keep the arv's for park, and get something a little more manly for outside of the park.

how much are you paying for the lizzies out of curiousity?
Jun 28 2007 1:58AM
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life.aquatic
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Skis should be good for you. Well size wise that is. I'm not too sure on the flex on them, but personally any ski softer than the ARV would kill me. The tails just wash out like nothing at all. So if someone can give you a comparison of the flex, that would be good. The ski is supposed to be small to I believe, so I think they'd be fun for you.
Jun 28 2007 2:00AM
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Jorgen.
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I have my ARvs mounted halfway between recomended and true center. I'm going to get the lizzies for $400 Canadian. You said to get somethings else for outside the park, what do you have in mind?
Jun 28 2007 3:13AM
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strode
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ok deal on the skis if they're are 06/07's.

it just sounds like your arv's will suit you very well for park (granted they still have some life left in them?), but i really didn't have any specific ski in mind. i would just say something longer, fatter, and stiffer than your arv's. 183 gotamas off the top of my head.

lizzies just aren't a good one quiver ski was more the point i was trying to make.
Jun 28 2007 4:23AM
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paprika
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They would be fun to play with on Mt Washington when you get dumps. Mount them more freeride and they will suit your pow needs with that ski; as well perfect for your side.
Keep you Arvs for AM and park, it will be a killer quiver.

As far as flex goes, I dont know for sure, but I remember when I handflexed them the Liz was much softer. Which could be good thing.

What I do remember about Mt Washington the few times I went was that you can and do get good dumps every so often so the Liz mounted freeride, or somewhere between a freeride mount and centre, would serve well for that and as well provide as a fun jib ski as you shred such powder. You have your ARVs for all mountain and park. A good mix.
Jun 28 2007 4:53AM
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strode
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with all due respect i'm going to have to disagree. lizzies should just not be mounted anywhere besides the center line. if you aren't going to ski them switch very often (ie freeride mount) then get a different ski.
Jun 28 2007 5:26AM
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Jorgen.
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My ARV's still have some life in them so I'll be keepping them for park. I was planning on mounting the lizzies close to center since I plan on riding them switch a lot. Any suggestions for a binding?
Jun 28 2007 12:42PM
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paprika
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i definetly didnt mean a fully freeride mount. I meant centre or within 2-3 cms of it.
Jun 28 2007 2:59PM
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Jorgen.
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Jun 28 2007 6:31PM
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Love_Wins.
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Kinda curious where the other 10% of your skiing time went...*raises one eyebrow*

And I'm going to say that (depending on the year) the Elizabeth probably isn't going to be softer than your ARVs, in fact, upon hand flexing both in a shop, the ARV was noticeably softer in the nose, and, if I remember right, softer in the tail as well.

I'd suggest getting the new Salomon binding, the STH 12, available here:


http://www.evogear.com/alpine-ski-bindings/salomon-sth-12-b100-10mm-brake-2008.aspx

That one only has the 100mm brake, but Salomon brakes are very easy to bend out, and if you really want, I'm sure they'd sell you a wider one.
Jun 28 2007 10:38PM
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Jorgen.
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On the Lift and in the lines duh.
But thanks for the advice.
Jun 28 2007 11:21PM
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Love_Wins.
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Ha, funny way to look at it.

Yeah, the STH is supposed to be a very sick binding this year though, based on the Z-series, but beefed up alot over the regular Z12. Strong and light is the word on them.
Jun 29 2007 12:12AM
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Jorgen.
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Jun 29 2007 4:21PM
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