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--R.I.P-- P18 and all Pivots

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AKFREERIDE
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god, im depressed now. i went to biglines.com and saw a newly streamed video with the Look/Dynastar representative, and he proceeded to show everyone that they now have discontinued all pivots. he showed the camera the PX18, and i just about cried. the line has PX10s, 12s, 15s, and 18s. what the fuck. i am very mad. and that means pivot heal pieces will jump in price next season. shit...
May 19 2007 4:14PM
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FUUUCK
Posts: 18426 - Karma: 4,888
link
May 19 2007 4:17PM
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Holte
Posts: 10730 - Karma: 7,744
any word on why they're being discontinued?
May 19 2007 4:17PM
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asfffffffffdd
Posts: 1554 - Karma: 1,103
there probably coming out with a new line, that will be named something different but will virtually be the same binding, or i would hope that they could make it a little lighter
May 19 2007 4:19PM
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bigwhite.steeze
Posts: 8227 - Karma: 1,030
i heard about this a loonnnggg time ago, i think in december i was told.
May 19 2007 4:21PM
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dmiller
Posts: 210 - Karma: 10
^yup
May 19 2007 4:24PM
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tahoearmada20
Posts: 971 - Karma: 352
they've been phazing them out for the past two seasons, since they discontinued the Rossi line... it sucks

I still ride my free 18's from '04... they're bombproof
May 19 2007 4:29PM
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AKFREERIDE
Posts: 1718 - Karma: 11
http://www.biglines.com/blarticles/3452/Look_Bindings_Winter_0708_Line_Video

theres the link.

the dude said something about changing partially because of the brakes. so that we can switch out brakes with aftermarket brakes. said somethin else about us "not having to bust your knuckles bending your brakes anymore". so what...you were making one of, if not THE, best big mountain binding in the world. and you stopped because of brakes and financial issues? damnit!
May 19 2007 4:37PM
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hemlockjibber8
Posts: 5953 - Karma: 3,450
they tried to do this for last year but i was told it took a long time for the racers to accept this binding, so now its a year behind. i hope its still simple and strong...
May 19 2007 4:37PM
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121Media
Posts: 49 - Karma: 14
son of a bitch! Why!!!!
May 19 2007 6:04PM
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*DrewT*
Posts: 7768 - Karma: 480
hahahaha oh man and looks without the pivot are total ball sach. I've gone trhough so much pain due to coming out of my PX12,s and 14s for no reason. Seriously I hate those bindings, my ass will never be the same
May 19 2007 6:07PM
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ikellen
Posts: 247 - Karma: 10
I've been on PX12s one two different pairs of skis this season and haven't had a problem.
May 19 2007 6:14PM
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Joan
Posts: 2944 - Karma: 1,305
get em now!
May 19 2007 6:18PM
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Dan-Man
Posts: 7480 - Karma: 3,605
dang better stock up
May 19 2007 6:18PM
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Capurnicus
Posts: 9947 - Karma: 1,886
shit, this really sucks. i still can't believe they're actually doing this. thank god they hold up so well. maybe i can make the rest of my life with the 2 pair i have now.
May 19 2007 6:22PM
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doitbig
Posts: 4818 - Karma: 315
definately holding onto my pairs now.
May 19 2007 6:29PM
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STAUSS
Posts: 8232 - Karma: 3,311
That my friend, is some serious bullshit. i need to get a couple dozen pairs just so im ready for the rest of my life.
May 19 2007 6:36PM
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dirty_dreb
Posts: 2659 - Karma: 19
well looks like salomon sales are going up....

the 916 and 914lab bindings are definilty the way to go now.
May 19 2007 6:37PM
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Tucks
Posts: 2120 - Karma: 161
old
May 19 2007 6:46PM
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Sholte
Posts: 2929 - Karma: 12
well that sucks and it rocks cause they will have a sick new line
May 19 2007 7:17PM
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SeanK
Posts: 702 - Karma: 130
thats a bummer pivots are sick
May 19 2007 7:26PM
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dweezileast
Posts: 9661 - Karma: 276
two words.


fuck that
May 19 2007 7:35PM
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Sholte
Posts: 2929 - Karma: 12
^yeah nobody buys salomon
May 19 2007 7:38PM
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skiRay
Posts: 7558 - Karma: 926
yeah it was about the FKS. good thing i got some!
May 19 2007 7:42PM
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soradrightnow
Posts: 318 - Karma: 10
mmmmm 914 Labs...so good...yet so hard to find.
May 19 2007 7:43PM
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mckeeman
Posts: 2674 - Karma: 122
i got some rossi freeride 18's up for sale...just found them in my garage sitting for 4 years...
offers?
May 19 2007 7:46PM
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[~_~]
Posts: 20239 - Karma: 1,273
FUCK I am pissed off. px heelpieces are shit. I mean, you can change out the brake with a screw? Everybody is going to snap those pieces of shit in the first week.


Looks like Im going to be riding with my din on 17 from now on.
May 19 2007 8:31PM
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Klick_2_klaim
Posts: 3396 - Karma: 25
they all do the same thing, what is the big deal? live in the now man, THE NOW!
May 19 2007 8:52PM
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[~_~]
Posts: 20239 - Karma: 1,273
soooo you call my old p12s not releasing and my current px12s double ejecting on hard carves the same thing?


they do not do the same thing, this was the only good binding on the market, everything else is shit. Marker, Salomon, Tyrolia/Fischer, Rossi; and now the last good binding ever is gone. I will NOT calm down!
May 19 2007 9:06PM
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fouldsys
Posts: 7404 - Karma: 39
this is the first sign of the appocolypse
May 19 2007 9:09PM
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emopoppins
Posts: 3996 - Karma: 269
its because you are ignorant to how amazing the FKS' are. its alright little buddy. snatch up a pair and learn.
May 19 2007 9:44PM
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Klick_2_klaim
Posts: 3396 - Karma: 25
haha yes.
no, I know theyre better. They say the new ones provide more force to your edges in a turn, but you have to be bang on for your forward pressure. Buy salomon? they work great for me!
May 19 2007 9:46PM
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MALONE
Posts: 3819 - Karma: 73
Okay so why the PX sucks
1.Its 90% plastic
2. Its a HUGE heelpeice, it takes up way to much space to allow a ski to flex naturally.
3. the toe peice is about as durable as mcdonalds milkshake.
May 19 2007 9:48PM
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soradrightnow
Posts: 318 - Karma: 10
1- the PX racestock heel is mostly metal.

2- the PX racestock heel is significantly shorter than the non-racestock version, resulting in less flex interference.

3- the toe pieces stay the same for the 15 and 18 DIN versions, and the 12 DIN always had that same consumer toepiece.


You, my friend, are full of shit.
May 19 2007 9:52PM
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MALONE
Posts: 3819 - Karma: 73
Ive never seen any "race stock" px, 15 or 18 likely because the turntable is flawless so whats the point? there is absolutly no reason to change it. I know 30 people off the top of my head who will be very dissapointed this includes everyone on the Dynastar team.
Im not your friend and PX's BLOOOOOOOOOOOW
May 19 2007 9:56PM
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Rajna
Posts: 3824 - Karma: 90
i love my P12 jibs to death
May 19 2007 9:58PM
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[~_~]
Posts: 20239 - Karma: 1,273
Salomons are shit! they are SO heavy, SO big, and have way too many little parts to them. Look turntable race stocks are the shit because they are simple, light, and fucking bombproof, the perfect binding for freestyle.
May 19 2007 9:59PM
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Ahmets_Brother
Posts: 20283 - Karma: 5,931
fuck them. they had something gong for them, ive bought pivots, p 15s and 18s for my entire life.There is no point in stopping. now they better make those px shits durable because ill break those bindings in 2 days. Atleast i have about 4 pairs of p15s and 18s so thatll get me through some time. Im gonna go out and buy all the pairs i can so itll last for my life
May 19 2007 10:16PM
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artfullydodged
Posts: 8358 - Karma: 1,674
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
May 19 2007 10:17PM
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steezerampage
Posts: 2171 - Karma: 214
The New ones look like rossis
May 19 2007 10:27PM
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steezerampage
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And what the hell is industrial reasons?
May 19 2007 10:28PM
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edmonton_skier
Posts: 3210 - Karma: 110
they said they are using a design similar to snowblades
May 19 2007 10:34PM
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MALONE
Posts: 3819 - Karma: 73
Looks are rossis rossis are looks
May 19 2007 10:37PM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1964 - Karma: 880
i heard solly's 914 and 916s are going to be lighter next year so that might be my binding
May 20 2007 1:28AM
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cobra_commander
Posts: 16909 - Karma: 4,682
manufacturing. they can't keep making or it is ridiculusly expensive for them to keep making the pivot heel
May 20 2007 2:10AM
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cobra_commander
Posts: 16909 - Karma: 4,682
but anyway most of my skis next year will probably have px15's
May 20 2007 2:40AM
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splooshie
Posts: 644 - Karma: 8
oh well, 4frnt bindings will always be the best anyways
May 20 2007 9:19AM
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dmiller
Posts: 210 - Karma: 10
^haha. right....always.
May 20 2007 9:47AM
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Deranged
Posts: 286 - Karma: 10
This does suck, now that looks bindings have nothing to really set them apart from the competition they lost their edge.  I should have bought another pair of fks's, Im hoping they last for  a long time.
May 20 2007 10:31AM
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steezerampage
Posts: 2171 - Karma: 214
But why is this, why is it so much more expensive to make the pivot heel
May 20 2007 11:03AM
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GetPitted
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LOOK just screwed themselves.
May 20 2007 12:09PM
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