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Pontoons or Hellbents

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ski_powpow
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What should i get im riding pure bigmountain and im looking at the 179 what is your opinion
Apr 7 2007 9:57PM
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buchanan.
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i like seths
Jun 6 2007 2:33AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Or Madens/AK Enemies if you can find them. I rode my Madens almost every day last year, so much fun.
Jun 6 2007 2:34AM
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eheath
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You may also enjoy 188 jps, funn ski.
Jun 6 2007 2:35AM
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cobra_commander
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Exactly, 130 mm does start to get in the way.
Jun 6 2007 2:36AM
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J.D.
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Madens/Jps = pow specific skis = too soft to really charge on. Not that they wouldn't work, they're just on the floppy side of ideal.
Jun 6 2007 2:36AM
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eheath
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Yeah they are sloppy, the 188s were a nice change for me tho, i could charge harder.
Jun 6 2007 2:39AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Mmmm, I agree. However, a floppy ski is kinda what I like to ride all mountain anyways. Fun for park, fun for just messing around, but still large and in charge enough to blast through crusts and crud and magnificent in powder. I love em. I only wish I could try the rockered pro model ones...
Jun 6 2007 2:40AM
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SMackmaHbitchUP
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you best buy them both!
Jun 6 2007 2:43AM
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buchanan.
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any thoughts on whos gonna sack up and come out with a ski around the width of seths but rockered?
Jun 6 2007 2:45AM
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eheath
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K2 kinda did this year, with the seths...
Jun 6 2007 2:45AM
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cobra_commander
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you mean the seths?
Jun 6 2007 2:46AM
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J.D.
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Uh... I sold a few pairs of Seths this year and they sure didn't feel rockered to me. Have I gone insane? I think it's more likely that you're just wrong and they're not.
Jun 6 2007 2:52AM
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eheath
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Next years seths have a slight rockered tip....

From jibijs website:

"...The 98mm waist, mini rocker, and progressive sidecut make it a force to be reckone..."
Jun 6 2007 2:55AM
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cobra_commander
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07.08's? because they have a slight rocker. the 06.07's don't
Jun 6 2007 2:56AM
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cobra_commander
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but it's perfectly possible that I am wrong
Jun 6 2007 2:56AM
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buchanan.
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uhh ok, deffinatly didnt know that
thats sick
Jun 6 2007 3:02AM
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Holte
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I've never ridden pontoons, but hellbents are okay on hardpack. They're very soft and tend to chatter through high speed turns in any snow that's less than an inch deep (ie. all groomers). The 08 seths are much more stable on piste, and the 07 seths are even more stable. If there's not more than a foot or two of powder, seths work fine for me. But in deep pow, hellbents are fun.
Jun 6 2007 3:04AM
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J.D.
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Oh. Well I haven't seen next year's for obvious reasons.
Jun 6 2007 3:05AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Seths have a mini-rocker, dunno whats up with that. They really arent Seths signature ski anymore, are they?
Jun 6 2007 3:05AM
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buchanan.
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by a mini rocker does it mean that they have less camber? or a massive shovel?
Jun 6 2007 3:06AM
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cobra_commander
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well they are the main ski he rides. so yes I guess they are. not sure how much input he has on the design though. but he is stoked on it for sure
Jun 6 2007 3:07AM
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buchanan.
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or are they actually rockered?
Jun 6 2007 3:09AM
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eheath
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mini rocker is a, uh, a mini rocker. Not completely reverse like bents, like half way to regular camber?
Jun 6 2007 3:09AM
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buchanan.
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so they're basicly flat?
i need to see these
Jun 6 2007 3:13AM
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Holte
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they're slightly rockered in the tip. It's not much. The only thing you really notice is they don't tip dive quite as much as older seth models. For all practical purposes, they're not really rockered, just softer.
Jun 6 2007 3:14AM
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cobra_commander
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the have regular camber not much, and it ends earlier.
Jun 6 2007 3:15AM
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desiredname
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HUGE rocker.... hellbents...
Jun 6 2007 3:15AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Dude, no way, Seth rode on rockered Madens in like all the ski movies of 06. I have no idea what he rode this year, but being at home in the BC and since he was on the rocker boat last year, I'd suspect Hellbents most of the time.
Jun 6 2007 3:19AM
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cobra_commander
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In the K2 forums he said that was because that was the only 07 graphic he had at the time. I feel like an idiot for knowing all this stuff after reading JD's post in the Nazi thread though
Jun 6 2007 3:31AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Haha, whatever, I'm a ski nerd and its an incurable addiction.
Jun 6 2007 3:32AM
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Steezy_Street
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Look at some of the Armadas like the ARG or jp vs juliens.
Some of the rossi big mountains skis are good as well.
Jun 6 2007 3:59AM
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Dan-Man
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I'd go with the E.P. PROS!!!! those look the best of the rockered skis
Jun 6 2007 12:41PM
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hemlockjibber8
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somebody podiumed at snowbird, i believe, with a reverse sidecut reverse camber ski. first time i have ever seen that.
Jun 6 2007 2:44PM
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jca
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^praxis skis are fucking dope
Jun 6 2007 2:58PM
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invader7
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id get the hellbents
Jun 6 2007 3:00PM
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