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Hillary Clinton will never be elected.

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Her problem is this: She pissed off just about all liberal support when she voted to use force in Iraq. She now completely opposes the war, and is now calling for US withdrawal in the near future. This, an attempt to appease the liberals, may have been the end of her. She has now alienated the conservatives. Not only that, but the call for withdrawal is "non-binding," rendering it meaningless. Bush vetoes it and we are all back to where we started. Hillary is in a tough position where if she does anything too drastic, she will further alienate those whose votes she desperately needs. But with the non-binding resolution (not too drastic), she still alienates the liberals because she is not doing anything significant to stop the war. There are so many in the country that will not vote for her under any circumstances that she cannot possibly afford to lose any more votes (which is impossible). It doesn't even matter if she can raise $26 million in 10 weeks. She loses anyway.

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Apr 3 2007 5:44AM
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Actually I heard he only made $20 million, which is $5 million less then Obama, and for what its worth Oprah supports Obama, as crazy as it sounds its going to get him tons of votes because alot of people are influenced by Oprah. I will be SHOCKED if Republicans win because of simply the war issue and Barack has been stating from the beginning how he disagrees with Iraq which will definantly score big points with the public. Minoritys are 9/10 a democrat and I definantly believe they will favor a minority pres such as Obama. I think the Republican that will win the primary is Romney and the Democrat will either be Edwards or Obamaa (Edwards always had a good shot and now is getting sympathy votes because his wife is dying from cancer, sad to say but its true).
Apr 6 2007 11:48AM
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wilkesyachtingco
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absolutley can, which is why senators are pretty much never elected president.

think about this now...

on the dems side you have two (three with edwards) senators who have name recognition and celebrity, but thats about it.

on the republican side you have guliani and romney. both of these guys have resumes that are absolutley astounding. guliani cleaned up the mob in NY as a prosecutor, cleaned up the image of the city as mayor, shut down all sorts of sleazy stores, crime, etc, and has the whole 9/11 thing to his credit.

romney, firstly made himself hugley successful in business, saved the SLC winter olymics, instituted universal health care in massachusetts as governer without raising taxes, and now is the front runner in dollars raised on the republican side.

mccain, well, hes another senator. however, his experience in Nam as a POW is probably one of the more compelling stories ive ever heard. not that that implicitly makes him presidential material, but whatever...

point being that you have a bunch of do-nothing senators who are famous for being, well, famous. basically the paris hilton and nicole richey of the political world. on the other side youve got guys who are extremely accomplished, and who frankly, politics aside, are much, much more qualified.

guliani/romney. best option. no question.
Apr 6 2007 12:15PM
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pmills
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Guliani allowed for body parts from the victms of 9-11 and the debris from the twin towers to be used to fill pot-holes of nyc... and in terms of cleaning up the mob, you mean he put Benard Kerik (someone with aledged mob ties) as the police comissioner, after being breefed about the possibility of those mob ties. Then he recomended Kerik to bush to run the homeland security department.

Guliani- not the best option for president.
Apr 6 2007 6:55PM
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unchyll
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hahahahha wow i started talking about robots for president i dont even remember typing any of that shit.... what a night er day or whenever i posted that
Apr 6 2007 7:02PM
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lushlaxstr
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woman aloud to vote- 1929
great depression starts-1930
eh?
Apr 6 2007 10:41PM
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it was $23m
While you're close on 9/10 of minorities voting democrat (it's actually closer to 7/10), minorities only count for about 27% of the voting public. It doesn't make as much of difference as you would think. As for Oprah, that's great that she built herself from nothing and is the most successful woman in the world, yada yada but her job is to talk about feelings and lose weight, not sway her audience politically. But it doesn't matter what my opinion of her is. I still don't think that she will impact the outcome much.
Actually, now the more I read about Romney, the more favorable he seems. The republican race will be very close and the next president will definitely be a republican.

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$23m: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/03/2008.fundraising.ap/index.html
voting stats (based on 2004 election): http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
Apr 7 2007 7:41AM
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rudy giuliani = tony robbins - talent.

slc was a disaster.
Apr 7 2007 7:55AM
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pmills
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the one major power in terms of a voting population that can controll an election are the conservative christians who vote based on their religious views over the actual policies. looking at the republican canidates and their moral standards... guliani - married 3 times, pro choice... not going to get the conservative christian vote.


have you been paying attention to ANY of the scandals that are coming out against washington???????
You can't seriously think that people are going to trust the GOP with all the allegations being made.

Gonzalas- firing chiefe justaces in swing states so that repubicans could be put in power

Cheney going to the CIA and demanding that they give him intelligence to link iraq to alqueda despite the fact that the CIA knowing that the connections between the two groups were dead. The entire group at washington lied and fabricated their own pretenses for the war in Iraq, which means that the Iraq war is an Illigal attack upon a sovergn nation.

YOU CAN NOT JUST GO TO WAR OFFENSIVELY BECAUSE YOU WANT TO.

there is no claim you can make to justify an offesenive war.



Republicans have FUCKED them selves over, they have fucked the middle class, they have lost the suport and the trust of the country.





Bill Richardson though not the frontrunning democrat, is probably the most qualified person to be the presedent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtfVSPPVAOM
Apr 7 2007 10:10AM
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And I'd like to add Giulliani met his soon to be 3rd wife well cheating on his 1st wife with his soon to be 2nd wife.

And I'm sorry to the guy about the $23 Million the site said the # was upgraded to $23 Million so you got me there, but that is still less than Barack if you get my point. Now, %27 Minoritys voting doesn't make that big of difference? That is a huge difference, the reason the Republicans won (which they actually lost in 2000 against Gore but didn't allow a recount) is because Republicans haven't done anything so much discouraged by the american public as Iraq war. I think that in its self, aswell as the majority of the minoritys being Democrat and possibly favoring Obama for his race is enough to make a Democratic president in '08. Now, I'm a Republican, but these are the facts, and I'd really like to see the first non-white president in American history in '08!

Apr 7 2007 10:50AM
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Oh and to add, being "qualified" doesn't mean much when the only president younger than Obama was probably one of the greatest. Also like I stated before Richardson might be 'sympethetic' to illegal immagrints and alot of people want some sort of way to sort it out.
Apr 7 2007 10:53AM
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Dustin.
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i love that shirt! I hope Hillary doesn't get elected, I have a feeling a lot of new voters will vote for her just because she is so advertised and is a woman. I still haven't decided who I will be voting for yet though. It's still a bit early.
Apr 7 2007 11:09AM
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pmills
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he won't be sypmathetic to the illegal immagrints, he could not support illigal immigration and want to better new mexico as govener, he said he would not be easy on immigration, and it is just naive to believe he would be simply because of his heratige.
Apr 7 2007 6:16PM
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Swick825
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thats why barack will win
Apr 7 2007 11:23PM
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Gigantaface
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As a citezen of MA, I can personally say that Romney has run our state into the ground. Im pulling for Edwards.
Apr 8 2007 12:46AM
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pmills
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I've been a hunter all my life, i mean i've hunted more than twice......

great way to start things off in my oppinion
Apr 8 2007 1:13AM
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Reptar
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of course she wont... shes a WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 8 2007 1:43AM
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EnemySki
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You are an idiot, this is not sexism, read what he posted he gives reasons why he does not like her and why she won't win. He does not once say she will not win because she is a woman, you my friend are a dumbass.
Apr 8 2007 2:21AM
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"qualified" and "old" are not synonyms.
Apr 9 2007 6:29AM
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It's not the current administration running for this election, now is it?
Apr 9 2007 6:31AM
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pmills
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so all of a sudden people will develop a huge trust for those that supported this administration and the GOP?

i mean people don't trust Richardson's stance against illigal immigration because he's mexican... what makes you think people will trust republicans?

Apr 9 2007 10:06AM
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I didn't want to make a new thread, so I'll bump this one for a joke:



An airplane was about to crash. There were 5 passengers on board, but
only 4 parachutes.

The first passenger said," I am Kobe Bryant, the best NBA basketball
player. The Lakers need me, and I can't afford to die." So he took the first pack
and left the plane.

The 2nd passenger, Hillary Clinton said, "I am the wife of a former U.S.
President, a NY State Senator and a potential future president. And I am
the smartest woman in American history, so America's people don't want me to
die." She took the 2nd pack and jumped out of the airplane.

The 3rd passenger, Ted Kennedy said, " I am a US Senator. The democratic
party needs me, and my liver still has some good years left". So he
grabbed the 3rd pack and jumped.

The 4th passenger, Billy Graham, said to the 5th passenger, a 10 year old
schoolgirl, "I am old and frail, and don't have many years left, and as a
Christian I will sacrifice my life and let you have the last parachute."

The schoolgirl said, "That's okay. There's a parachute left for you.
AMERICA'S SMARTEST WOMAN TOOK MY BOOKBAG."
May 1 2007 1:46PM
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FartBoy05
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you're giving dane cook a run for his money with that one
May 1 2007 2:47PM
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Capt.Flannel
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good one pal!
May 1 2007 2:47PM
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Freeskier9856
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I HATE HER
May 1 2007 3:18PM
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Gavajabra2
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Qualified as in he has enough experience, so yes in a way they are.
May 1 2007 5:28PM
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rockyhockey11187
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she's got a nuke up her sniz, oh no not.........a snook
May 1 2007 6:50PM
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