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Lifters on bindings?

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Swan_Solo
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yes or no
ill be using my skis for all-mountain and park
i weigh 170
height=5'10"
Mar 26 2007 3:26PM
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ijibgoremtn
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i cant imagine they make that much difference for park riding but help for actual all mtn skiing
Mar 26 2007 3:42PM
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Swan_Solo
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i was thinking that maybe a lower center of gravity would help with balance on rails and such

i was thinking of getting the look px 12 ti with lifter
Mar 26 2007 4:09PM
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rocktheLPs
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easier on rails
harder to land switch
harder to get a good pop
easier to buttard.
easier to turn switch and reg.
Mar 26 2007 4:54PM
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Swan_Solo
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i c
well i plan to do the following:
all mountain
some powder when available
jumps
landing and jumping switch
boxes
skiing switch
limited rails, i dont wanna totally screw my skis for a while

Mar 26 2007 5:03PM
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Love_Wins.
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SEARCH FUNCTION!

Seriously though,mostly what rocktheEPs said...but it also depends on the ski, a fatter ski that you might need more leverage to lay on edge, you might want them. Honestly though, with most people, the difference is so marginal that you won't notice it, unless your gear is 100% dialed, it won't make that much of a difference.
Mar 26 2007 5:17PM
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WeK
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Is this with lifters or w/o. I know it's supposed to be easier to turn /w lifters, but rails easier with lifters? I thought it was supposed to be easier w/o lifters.
Mar 26 2007 5:48PM
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Sholte
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dont do it unless you have really skinny skis
Mar 26 2007 6:44PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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true dat.. what skis are you gonna be mounting?
Mar 26 2007 6:45PM
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Aenigma
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I generally mount flat on skis under 90mm and lifted over 90mm, but that's just a super general guideline I use.  If you're going to use them in the park more than on the mountain and they're under 95mm you'd probably be better off without lifters.
Mar 26 2007 8:41PM
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Swan_Solo
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they're rossi scratch fs's
84 at the waist
i do a lot of all mountain
i think i may go with risers because it'll be easier to turn
Mar 26 2007 9:34PM
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mattster
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dont do it!
i took the lifters off of my skis (86 waist) and my skis were instantly a lot more fun to ski on without them.

it did take a tiny bit more effort to turn, but i got used to it in one run.
but it was a lot more stable and way more fun in every kind of condition
Mar 26 2007 11:03PM
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Swan_Solo
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well if i get risers, and i dont like them, i can just take them off and remount the bindings with shorter screws
Mar 26 2007 11:19PM
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drewishish
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84 at the waist isnt hard to turn..... if you cant turn that w/o lifters you need to die.
Mar 26 2007 11:22PM
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jhackbeez
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id say dont get lifters.
Mar 27 2007 10:11AM
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Ronix
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I'd go without them if I were you
Mar 27 2007 11:11AM
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*Koolaid*
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i really dont think it makes that much of a difference....i mean i have lifters on my park skis and it really isnt noticeable....however i really didnt have a choice b/c my shop didnt have shorter screws or else i woulda gone no lifter
Mar 27 2007 11:14AM
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PacificRimJob
Posts: 24704 - Karma: 29,687
Dont get lifters... I have those skis... you dont need them. They are damp as fuck (no chatter AT ALL) and yet they are responsive nevertheless... They were made so you really wouldnt need lifters... hence why The only ones I've ever seen lifters on were the demo skis...
Mar 27 2007 1:59PM
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titsLOL
Posts: 7485 - Karma: 396
this is the kinda thing the searchbar is good for. it's not like lifter technology has really changed so there's no reason you need a new thread.
Mar 27 2007 3:35PM
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cbrady
Posts: 2857 - Karma: 124
if you mount new bindings without the lifters, the warranty is no longer in effect...and with shorter screws, they are more likely to rip out

thats what i was told
Mar 27 2007 4:13PM
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Love_Wins.
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I dunno about the warranty issue, I would think you could just put the lifters back on before you sent them out if that were a problem.
But I know that the ripping out thing is bogus, because the sink depth of the screw won't change with or without the lifter, you still only have so much ski that you can drill into before you dimple the bases.
Mar 27 2007 4:28PM
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WeK
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my TMs are mounted with lifters. i don't really see a big deal with it, if i took the lifters off is my skiing going to suddenly improve
Mar 27 2007 5:42PM
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