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Learning tricks on water ramps is NOT skiing

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JahSpriggs
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period...............learn it on snow
Mar 5 2007 11:48AM
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freeskier2424
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agreed
Mar 5 2007 11:48AM
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i+am+ghetto
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i kinda disagree.... there´s a reason why jon olsson never hurt himself ... !
Mar 5 2007 11:50AM
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dowalibeast
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so are you against learning tricks on trampolines or jumping off a boat or off a roof into snow also? whatever helps you progress is definetely legitimate.  if a person is confident on a different type of field they're going to be able to do it. i wouldn't be able to do a backflip on skis if i hadn't tried it on a trampoline first. practice makes perfect whatever kind of practice it is. it's just like mainstream sports athletes lifting weights or playing in the offseason. it's OUR way of practicing in the offseason. I'm not sure about wherever you live, but here in montana we have a thing called summer for part of the year, and there isn't any snow. so ther'es no way to go skiing.  anything that resembles skiing, whether it be water ramps or freestyle walking, it's all acceptable and you are ignorant.
Mar 5 2007 11:57AM
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indatrenches
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so wait, someone learning a new trick as close as they can to being on the real format is dumb? no, you are dumb.
Mar 5 2007 11:59AM
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JahSpriggs
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The trampoline is much different than water ramps, You dont have the weight of your ski equipment or foward momentum, and the trampoline is much different than skiing, whereas the water ramps are almost spot on!
Mar 5 2007 12:02PM
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indatrenches
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i have esp
Mar 5 2007 12:03PM
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D_Mezz
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place up in mansfield, oh...called ohio dreams! opens this summer and has snow flex on the in run and jumps so u can carve up to it....jumps arent arealist jumps they are park jumps. so YES it is skiing.
Mar 5 2007 12:04PM
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dustingreenall
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i think u should learn on snow to and tramp is like just getting comfortable being upside down and shit
Mar 5 2007 12:04PM
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SN0WBOARDER
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it helps you progress loser
Mar 5 2007 12:05PM
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JFerg
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I can't believe the person who made this thread. Every athlete, regardless of sport, has to train. There is no arguing that. And very often, the best way to train isn't to take part in the sport itself, but to find an alternative activity that is similar.
Mar 5 2007 12:07PM
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CEDARIMAGE
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ok so if you learn it on water ramps then on snow...whats wrong with that
Mar 5 2007 12:11PM
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almostaskier
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so it's cheating?

i think that preparing for anything in whatever way works is fair game. you've prepared your tricks in your head before you've done them...

learning tricks on skis seems to be skiing... Jon takes it to the snow, that's it. If he was claiming stuff thrown off ramps, but not on snow, then you've got an argument...
Mar 5 2007 12:16PM
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manabadman
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no its not skiing but its a damn good way to practise
Mar 5 2007 12:16PM
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simmers
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That's fucking retarded. That's like saying that taking batting practice before a game is not really baseball. Learn how to hit in the game...period. I go to the gym in the summer to prepare for the ski season. My gym doesn't have any snow in it. So am I not a skier because I do things that aren't skiing to prepare my body for skiing?
Mar 5 2007 12:27PM
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simmers
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Also, in reference to the dope shit you're hating on: perhaps water ramping is not skiing. It doesn't matter, because doing sick double flips on skis, on snow, is indisputably skiing, regardless of how you learned the tricks.
Mar 5 2007 12:29PM
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mski
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i dont like it when people claim tricks theyve done on water ramps like theyve done it on snow!
Mar 5 2007 12:31PM
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dozerr
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its not skiing, but  obviosly its good practice. i'd rather land on my head in water than on snow
Mar 5 2007 12:34PM
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SmoKinSkier
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r u serious im down in Columbus i haven't heard of this that would be so sick!!
Mar 5 2007 12:36PM
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PeterTosh
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it really only helps you find good spots and get air sense. the ramp is nothing like snow and the only things you can practice are gay straight take-offs with no carves. iv hit ramps for a long time and can't do any of that stuff on snow because i like to carve off jumps- all the sets are different with carving, especially switch tricks.

so really, like always, there is a balance between learning how to spot your landing on the ramps and learning how to take off/actually ski on snow
Mar 5 2007 12:39PM
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its_an_invasion*
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hey man props for makin the thread. i'm fed up of douche bags claiming these tricks they've gone and learnt on the waterramps, its not skiing so dont do it, i do my shit the hard way and im reapin the rewards.
Mar 5 2007 12:47PM
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theoz
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Lets see you do a fucking fakie rodeo to under flip 7 on snow 1st try with out water ramps??? FMX guys use foam pits we use water ramps, weather some one learns tere new trick on snow or on the ramps if its good enough there still gonna kick your ass at a comp weather they learnt the trick on snow or water makes no difference
Mar 5 2007 12:56PM
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Fintendo
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"This is the epitamy of training right here"-Travis Parker
that's good enough for me, even though I've never done it.
Mar 5 2007 1:00PM
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DANETRON
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never done it but i hear if you fall it still hurts alot

Mar 5 2007 1:08PM
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littlebrainer
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Yea well in Canada you need to be certified on ramps first... so your saying that no comps should have tricks where your head goes under your feet?
Mar 5 2007 1:12PM
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Holte
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wait -what?
Mar 5 2007 2:01PM
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Craigskis
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I prefer water ramps frankly, nothing beats a lifejacket-
Mar 5 2007 2:03PM
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bikerocker
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this is like that whole foam pit thing with summer sports. Get over it, it's going to be a part of the sport.
Mar 5 2007 2:03PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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i learn tricks in my mind
Mar 5 2007 2:05PM
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skiwoj
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I'm a pussy when it comes to trying new tricks, so hopefully water ramps will help build up my confidence
Mar 5 2007 2:22PM
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tribefan226
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what are water ramps???
Mar 5 2007 2:35PM
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Vinci
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I´ve had worse crashes on waterramps than on snow...
Catching an edge while going switch on those mats is deadly.
Mar 5 2007 2:39PM
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Colt45er
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water ramps are off season training. just like working out.  why risk your whole season with an injury. if you say water ramps are "cheap" then what is trampoline?
Mar 5 2007 2:41PM
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snocompton
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Now your contradicting yourself. In the title of the thread you say learning tirkcs on water ramps is NOT skiing and now your saying that water ramps are almost spot on? Get your shit straight.

Why would you be against something that will help someone progress in the sport of skiing that we all love? Its a much safer enviornment to learn big tricks. Your logic is so completely off and retarded.
Mar 5 2007 2:46PM
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JGP.
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thank you....spriggs your point makes no fuckin sense.




at all.
Mar 5 2007 2:46PM
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futurespin
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at least everyone isnt jumping on spriggs dick in this thread.
Mar 5 2007 2:50PM
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Tucks
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everything done on skis is basically skiing
Mar 5 2007 3:10PM
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TomK1
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Water ramping is sooo fun. Basically take cliff jumping and skiing and put them together and thats what the feeling is kind of like. Its dumb to say its "cheating" or whatever i mean its a good way to progress, especially with more dangerous tricks that you need to get more comfortable with before you try on snow.
Mar 5 2007 3:20PM
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chillonhill
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If you have skis on well, technically its kinda like skiin
Mar 5 2007 3:23PM
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c+ald
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well said i agree with that
Mar 5 2007 4:47PM
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Krish
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Mar 5 2007 4:49PM
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briguysteeze
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i say learn it on snow then take it to water ramps then take it the tramps...best way possible


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Mar 5 2007 4:51PM
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AhrenStein
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i dont care if your john spriggs - your fuckin stupid. Why would you not want to be able to learn something without hurting yourself?

Sure its not actually skiing but it does help your skiing. you fuckin suck
Mar 5 2007 5:02PM
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snowXrider540
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this i agree with

but there is NOTHING wrong with learning tricks on water ramps and taking them to the snow.

then i have no problem, because landing on your head in water hurts way less than on snow
Mar 5 2007 5:07PM
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GetPitted
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Dont worry. Just look at his name and you'll understand 8)
Mar 5 2007 5:38PM
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VANULAR
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spriggs, why would you start this thread, you probablly broke a couple necks because of this...........dont listen to this man, hit water ramps if you have the chance!
Mar 5 2007 5:43PM
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littlebrainer
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Its true .. in Ontario at least if you compete in something CSIA sponsored you need there comp insurance and to be certified for inverts
Mar 5 2007 5:46PM
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JahSpriggs
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Hey atleast 1 person agreed with me, haha
Mar 5 2007 5:49PM
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mohawkskier
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no it is not skiing but it is a training method used by a lot of successfull skiers so i guess it works
Mar 5 2007 6:02PM
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*DrewT*
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ya seriously if there where no water ramps but people where trying the tricks we're doing there'd be some mighty bad injuries by now. I don't think ramps are important for you to learn how to bring a switch 7 around to 9 or something but to learn some tricks it's supper helpful. I'm gonna ramp a fair bit this summer to work on doubles. I don't really have anything else to work on though
Mar 5 2007 6:08PM
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bpalmer
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spriggs, didnt you double flip at the open?? and you learned that shit on snow?


i can understand your point if you learned your shit on snow and threw it in a comp. but if you had the chance to hit ramps all summer and put all the doubles in your imagination into practice, wouldn't you do it?
Mar 5 2007 6:16PM
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