I'm posting this here and not in the reviews section because I couldn't upload the pictures correctly and there's so many threads asking questions about these so I just wanted to try and answer all the questions here.
To start I'm 6' and about 155 lbs. The skis are mounted between the uppermost quick mount holes(see picture) which is like 3cm or so back from the real center with 4frnt deadnbolt 614s. I measured them with a tape measure in the summer to find the real center and this is like 3 back. I've pretty much skied them in every type of condition. I live on the east and have skied them on groomers and ice, off of jumps, and even slid some rails with them. I've also skied them on east coast powder and thigh deep utah powder. They are the most fun ski I've ever been on, but I wouldn't characterize them as a one quiver ski. I have ar5s which are my park ski and ice ski. These are for powder and skiing pretty much anything else outside of the park.
On first impressions these skis are super fat. The dimensions are 139/110/137. However, that width doesn't make them too difficult to ski. My first day out on them was in early december on groom trails and some ice at attitash. In these conditions they were alright, but not good enough to make me want to use them over my ar5s. I was hitting some rollers and landing on ice and they slid out almost everytime. The bindings weren't set real well so I really didn't get a good chance to butter with them or anything because they were releasing all the time. So, on ice they pretty much suck, but that's not why I bought them.
The next time I skied them was on east coast powder. I cranked the din up to like 9 or something because they kept popping off. That made a world of difference and they were now so much more fun. They turn really well in powder and on groomers. They're also super soft so I could do nose butters much better than on my ar5s. That day I dropped some cliffs and hit a jump that we built. They were so much fun. Off jumps they feel a little weird at first cuz they're so fat, but once you get used to them they're really nice. Skiing switch they're amazing because of the elliptical sidecut and where I had them mounted. After this 2nd day I was really pleased with how they skied. The only complaint from this day was that they're a little sluggish on flat stuff. Like all of my friends would pass me and I had to skate a lot, which got kind of annoying. But at 110 in the waist the sluggishness is kind of a given.
The reason I bought these skis was for my trip to Utah which I just got back from last week. This was my first time out west so I was super pumped to ski west coast powder on the lizzies. The first day I was out there it snowed like a foot. The Lizzies absolutely killed it that day. It was just like floating. The turn radius is sick like powder slashes are so easy it's just like surfing. They floated really well although I might've liiked them mounted a bit further back because my noses divided a few times, but I don't think that I'll change that because they were so good switch. So in powder they absolutely kill it. This is really what the skis were made for. They're good on the east, but 100 times better on the west. Not really sluggish at all in powder.
Later that week the snow kind of hardened and they weren't as good because it was like all moguls and they pretty much suck in moguls. That was the only time I wanted a narrower ski, but once again I expected that they would suck in moguls because of how fat they are. On Utah groomers because there's no ice they absolutely killed it. I normally get bored real fast with groomers, but they turned so well that I was just having a blast on them.
The last day I was there it snowed like a foot and a half and once again the lizzies killed it. I skied a lot of chutes that day and they handled that stuff real well. They were really good on traverses too. That day was spent mostly in tries and I absolutely loved them. They turned so well in the fresh snow it was incredible. The trees were so much fun and the ski made it that much better. That day I also found a jump that I was hitting on these. I took the jump about 20 feet with a big 180 and landed switch in powder. I tried to turn around, but the snow was so deep that I ate shit. This definetly wasn't the skis fault, but it was just my first time landing switch in powder. I evenutally got it down and through some 3s too. It was so much fun. They're super poppy and real fun off of jumps into powder. In Utah they absoultely killed it. They weren't squirmy at high speeds, they edges didn't hook at all, I really have no complaints they were a perfect powder ski.
All in all this ski is amazing. Its super good off of jumps and amazing in the powder. The only thing I haven't done on these is ski and actual park. I've hit natural jumps and built jumps at Utah, but I've never lapped and east coast park with them. I'm sure that by the way they performed on all surfaces of snow that they would be fine in the park. I would recommend them as a park ski to someone who lives out west where there isn't ice and you can ski them all over the mountain as well. However, if you live on the east and are just looking at these for park, getting something narrower because they aren't good on the ice that the east is known for. Really my only complaints about these are that they're bad on ice, moguls, and are sluggish sometimes which are all givens with fat skis. Buying these skis was the best decision I ever made. I'm so pumped that I have them and every time I'm not in the park at attitash I'll be skiing them, and I might even take them into the park occasionally, but not everyday. So bottom line if you will be skiing powder, hitting jumps, and jibbing all over the mountain this is the ski for you. It's amazing.
I hope that answered all the questions that people have.
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