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Fucking p18 plate breakage!! w/ pics

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n0gga
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Okay. So yesterday I broke the second plate on my p18s. The plate Im talking about is the plastic one under the toe piece. First time I got my hand on a new one instantly, and this time I have just glued it temporarily. Has anyone else experienced this? Obviously it snaps as my boot releases. I had a few bails yesterday, but Im not able to tell when it happened cuz it did not break compleatly of. Idk why it happens. This should hold up cuz theres only the boot resting on it, and sliding of on release.
I have talked to Look today and they are sending me 3 new ones. This is bugging me cause I have to demount the toe piece and its not like the drill holes are forever.

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Damage is done slightly under the metal part.
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Red line represents the snapping line
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Old piece and the one I broke yesterday. Notice the glue.
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Feb 14 2007 12:39PM
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=nick=
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wat the fuck? how is that possible if its mounted, i dont get that
Feb 14 2007 12:44PM
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waynewong
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1. That is a crazy amount of wear on the toe piece - do you kick your boots in or step in
2. It is a race binding what do you expect?
3. Do you expect "e-props" for breaking a thin piece of plastic? Like wow man, you broke those bindings, you must be gnarly

Feb 14 2007 12:52PM
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n0gga
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Thought Id mention that it was mad cold yesterday. About 0-5 F.
Feb 14 2007 12:53PM
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n0gga
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I step into it. And no I dont expect any props. If you read properly youll see that im asking for possible reasons, solutions etc, not trying to be gnarly. idiot!
And since its a racebinding, its supposed to hold up. Imagine the the preassure on those things when going over 100mph downhill.
When I talked to look today, they told me they have never heard of anything like this.
Feb 14 2007 12:57PM
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140stud
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dat sucks i just wouldnt worry about it bra
Feb 14 2007 12:58PM
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rocktheLPs
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well maybe when youre releasing your boot is twisting unparalled from the ski, so its putting contact on the side of that piece. i dont know just trying to offer advice
Feb 14 2007 1:39PM
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johanblaze
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get your toepiece heli-coiled.
Feb 14 2007 1:47PM
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WeK
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I don't wanna make a new thread, but just a quick question. The white part, the slider plate thing, mine feels like it moves really poorly sometimes, clearly some dirt/dust stuck under it, is this an issue I should go and clean up or it doesn't matter?
Feb 14 2007 1:49PM
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n0gga
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Probably you have the p12/14 which has a slider. This one is another and it does not move. Its stuck to the black piece.

rocktheEPs, yeah thats what Im thinking also. Ill try to look into that.

What do you mean by heli-coiled sean?
Feb 14 2007 2:03PM
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johanblaze
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take your skis to a shop and tell them to heli coil the toepiece. they'll know what to do.

it's what you do when you have a toe or heel piece rip out. think kind of like putting a snowboard inserts in your existing holes... but not exactly.
Feb 14 2007 2:07PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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my theory, probably not right, but because there is no vertical release on the toe piece for race stocks it snapping the plactic when your boot gets pulled up, thats the best i got, you must be skiing really hard though thats crazy never seen it happen before
Feb 14 2007 2:15PM
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dorikin
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Yea how high is your din?
Feb 14 2007 2:51PM
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=nick=
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maybe ur p18s had a defect
Feb 14 2007 2:53PM
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n0gga
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my din is at 8-10 depending on what I ski. Ive hit some big jumps lately, but its not like I am candide or something like that. Maybe my boots width is catching the side of this plate. Does a vertical release mean that the toe piece has 2 parts which are spreading insted of this one twisting upon release?
Feb 14 2007 3:20PM
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freezed
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I suspect like Sean was implying, that a screw or two in your toepiece is not really screwed in the core. So like he suggested, try having that toepiece heli-coiled.
Feb 14 2007 3:37PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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the race stocks dont release upwards, only horizontally in the toe piece, so your boot maybe acting like a wrench if you land backseat and cracking the plate, idk i still have never seen that happen
Feb 14 2007 4:18PM
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Dustin.
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what i'm thinkin
Feb 14 2007 4:24PM
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n0gga
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what difference would that make? The toetpiece sits like a motherfucker on the ski, so I assume its screwed into the core.

Idk if landing backseat would affect it cause that would put preassure on the front part of the plate. Its more likely that my boot catches the side and twists it, causing it to crack, OR when my boot slides of, with preassure upwards on the toepiece, its to much weight down on the plate and the boot kinda dig into it (its kinda soft) and twists it as it release.
Whatever the reason is, its fucking pissing me of right now!
Feb 14 2007 4:49PM
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AKFREERIDE
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well since its a race binding, especially a p18, one should expect that they wont break. p18s are arguably one of the most durable and gnar binding out to the public. it scares me to think that you frown down upon racing bindings. some of the best bindings from all the companies are made for racing. s916, s914, p14, p18. the list goes on.
Feb 14 2007 4:55PM
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waynewong
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^^being that this cat is riding a din18 binding at 8-10 suggests to me that he has zero clue regarding bindings and just has these to impress others -

Feb 14 2007 4:59PM
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=nick=
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some people buy race stock for their durability
Feb 14 2007 5:05PM
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n0gga
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^yeah thats why I have them mounted on every ski I ever owned. They are fucking bombproof. Until now I guess.
Your theory is compleatly stupid, saying to have to crank the din to 18 just because you can. I bet to drive your car at max rpm every gear just because you can, which then again makes you a fucking tool!
Feb 14 2007 5:07PM
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Nine7OH__
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those bindings are soo fuckin heavy man
Feb 14 2007 5:43PM
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waynewong
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Not to beat this horse to death but....

Using a din18 race spring binding at an 8-10 setting shows how LITTLE you know about how a binding works.

Maxing out a binding is about as bad as keeping it at the bottem end of it's setting. They are designed to work best in the middle 2/3rds of it's setting.

Durability?? Well they seem pretty bombproof looking at those pictures.

Feb 14 2007 6:33PM
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johanblaze
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no, no, heli coil them since you're removing the toepice and intend on screwing it back into the same holes after it is fixed.
Feb 14 2007 11:57PM
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skipocketrockets
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were the two broken pieces used on the same toe piece?
Feb 15 2007 12:11AM
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