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Decambering skis!!

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smuggart
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i think ill try and decamber my green tms after reading this http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45099&highlight=bend+skis
and other threads about rockered park skiing, seems pretty straight forward: heat a ski to about 200 ish C, bend it. have you tried this?

Jan 29 2007 8:43PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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i think theres a good chance your skis will turn to goo if you heat them to 200
Jan 29 2007 8:56PM
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smuggart
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maybe its farenheit? that would make more sense, thats 93 C, ill post pics once im done (tomorrow?) and ill be dual cambering them
Jan 29 2007 8:58PM
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Thomson.
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I hope there not your normal skis, becuase if its no good, well then that sucks.
Jan 29 2007 9:01PM
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Aenigma
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Why would you want to decamber a park ski?  Having flat or rockered skis only helps in powder;  it will reduce the stability of a skinny ski like that dramatically if you ever touch hardpack or groomers.
Jan 29 2007 9:03PM
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Ryno
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Oh, I'm not making a judgement about what the right amount of camber is... I'm just saying don't start cooking your skis.







Cooking your skis isnt a good idea, period.
Jan 29 2007 9:06PM
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Sholte
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^ i donno andy mayors park ski is rocker, and decambered.
Jan 29 2007 9:06PM
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Thomson.
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yeah but it was MADE rockered, not cooked in an oven and then flex backwards...
Jan 29 2007 9:10PM
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Ryno
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Dummy.
Jan 29 2007 9:22PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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i dont think heating is a good idea your skis will probably delam, another thread over on TGR showed a guy who stuck the tails of his skis in between his stairs, the kind to a basement that are all wood and have the spaces inbetween the steps, then rapped a rope around his tips and tide it to his tips and left it there for a week or something, idk search for it on tgr seems like a better idea
Jan 29 2007 9:34PM
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Swick825
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haha MAYORS. what a crack up.
Jan 29 2007 10:30PM
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zerospinskier
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So, if it is better, could you state the positive benifits for having a park ski with negative camber? Please, i would love to hear them.
Jan 29 2007 10:38PM
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fouldsys
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i dont think its his park ski. they are the hellbents which is a pow ski that he uses for park cause hes rebellious.
Jan 29 2007 10:43PM
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Ryno
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Pep says he loves it. Easier to butter and shit
Jan 29 2007 11:25PM
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KillerMonkey
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and theres not much need to carve in park either so decambering wouldnt make a difference
Jan 29 2007 11:34PM
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zerospinskier
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ya but its like, giving yourself less pop, and my less i mean like, none...
Jan 29 2007 11:37PM
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stylishskier
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a zero or reverse camber in the park would give you no pop and landings would probably be dangerous/unstable to say the least, Im gonna go ahead and say this isn't something the average skier, or even the bulk of pro park skiers are going to do or should do... when skis lose their camber they are dead... lifeless and no fun, to me anyways because I live on the EC...
Jan 29 2007 11:51PM
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Literature
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My Lines from a couple of years ago have reverse camber in the tips because of so many nose butters and hard landings.
Jan 30 2007 12:42AM
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Ryno
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Wait till The Idea.
Jan 30 2007 12:46AM
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CTD
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exactly. just `caus Pep does it doesnt mean you can too. theres a reason he is a godly pro, and your trying to cook youe skis to be like him. rocker isnt a good thing for park. yes, there are some places with you could play with them and have some fun, but for the most part, it will just make it much more difficult.

PS, cooking your ski like that will cause it to delam. dont do it.
Jan 30 2007 2:17AM
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smuggart
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i did it, it worked pretty well but im too afraid to ride them, they feel like there going to snap cause there so soft, definetly dont try it on a ski with a foam core
Feb 6 2007 7:38PM
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titsLOL
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pics pics pics pics pics pics
Feb 6 2007 7:41PM
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nashbuck
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ne pics?
Feb 6 2007 7:43PM
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Ryanvdonk
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i had decambered park skis, they ski like shit. no pop, wash out on landings really easy, the only advantage is buttering and pressing.
Feb 6 2007 7:46PM
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Ryanvdonk
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they were fujatives, and i happened naturally, probably from me buttering a bunch and pressing. they became reverse camber. also once this happens your skis are super weak, mine broke while landing a little bit forward on a misty 5.
Feb 6 2007 7:48PM
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KillerMonkey
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I actually wanna try it. I have a pair of fujatives myself and I guess Ill just ski em into the ground.
Feb 6 2007 8:35PM
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Ryanvdonk
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won't take long, 10 days before a total loss of camber for me, day 12 for reverse, day 17 for snapped.
Feb 6 2007 9:09PM
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ijibgoremtn
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well if someone does do this please tell me how they ride im interested but i think they will ride like crap well do it and make a thread about it i guess
Feb 6 2007 9:09PM
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skithesprings
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Feb 6 2007 9:36PM
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MEGAZORD
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I cant fit them in my oven at home.  I guess i need to go to germany.
Feb 6 2007 10:10PM
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Love_Wins.
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Yeah, those were the old Atomic Powder Plus, they have a metal sheet in them, that's why they hold shape of you bend them, probably not going to work on most park skis, but you could try.
Feb 6 2007 10:57PM
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