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kepler.
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i know theres a thread of this already but it died out a while ago. i'm hearin more and more rumors that burton will indeed have a ski out next year or by the latest two seasons from now. i'm totally against it and don't want this to happen. the only good i see coming otu of it is more snowboarders converting. has anyone heard anything, if so are you for or against it?
Dec 28 2006 2:56PM
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CMF
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i will never even consider buying burton skis. fuck burton, anyone remember when they bought out a ton of add space in either freeze or freeskier (i dont remember) and just put ads in trashing on skiers saying that they should just snowboard instead?
Dec 29 2006 10:53PM
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statuswhitegirl
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the boards are already sick which means there new designs will look awesome for skis but no one will buy them because they will think they are gay




Dec 29 2006 10:56PM
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Literature
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K2, Salomon, and Rossignol, as well as all their undercompanies such as Line, Karhu, Volkl, Marker, Look, Lange, and Dyanstar are all part of massive international corperations. I sincerely doubt that the highest people in these companies care about skiing as we know it. The three big companies I previously mentioned all have snowboarding companies associated with them.

At this point, if you want to support the individual and independant company, you have to pay more and deal with supply problems, strict warrenties, and difficult customer support. While I am all for the indie companies, it is difficult to get out from under the shadow of the big companies when purchasing gear.

Dec 29 2006 11:02PM
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headmojo
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Somebody scan in those adds! I want to see them!
Dec 30 2006 3:46AM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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i love how close minded matman is, i know its been said but cmon now, head and saloman both make boards along with almost all other companies, there is really no argument. doesnt matter because indirectly you are going to support snowboarding and its pretty much the same for boarders.
Dec 30 2006 4:02AM
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Danger.
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if the skis are good i will consider..
Dec 30 2006 4:17AM
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Jib_This
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RED, Anon, and Burton in general are, since their introductions to the skiing market, the worst thing to happen to skiing since straight skis, spandex, one pieces, and racing.

Get the fuck out. And leave your skis at home. No one wants them.

Dec 30 2006 4:40AM
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espong1321
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so is armada gon make snowbaords?> kinda the same type of thing or no?
Dec 30 2006 4:54AM
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feezy
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snowboarding companies are supporting skiers because skiing has come a long way in the past couple years.
we have moved far from the snowboard hating retards that thought nosepresses were nearly impossible in a practical sense, to airblaster wearing, anon repping retards.

all i am saying is that skiing has progressed to a point that it is marketable. its "cool" now.

no company that is making money (snowboarding companies) would invest in a company that needs as much work as skiing needed 3 years ago.

we have made big strides...
Dec 30 2006 5:37AM
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Ryno
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Fags = money


Look at emo :P
Dec 30 2006 8:35AM
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STAUSS
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fuck it, i'll buyem.
Dec 30 2006 9:25AM
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i0z
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armada only has like 7 different kinds of skis....burton has about a million....and armadas headed by skiiers so i dont c that happening
Dec 30 2006 9:43AM
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railslayer
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my clothes are all burton. my skis are lines.
Dec 30 2006 10:18AM
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espong1321
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im just tryin to get at what snowboarders would support a core ski company why should skiers suport snowboards?wouldnt that just put more money back into snowbaording
Dec 30 2006 11:44AM
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Jrap14
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judge the product not the company
Dec 30 2006 11:47AM
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Shpadoinkle
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wurd.
burton has awesome jackets and well...other companies don't.
Dec 30 2006 11:48AM
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i0z
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indirectly it would but anyone who would buy a snowboard from them would be puttin money into the skis so they would b supporting skiing too
Dec 30 2006 12:28PM
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tahoeskier
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Alright, burton making skis would not be a bad thing- it would just be retarded. Burton would have to bite their tounge and slap themselves in the face before they stated making skis. Burton making skis would prettymuch unofficially legitimize skiing in the snowboard community. And this comming from a company that has been anti-ski from the start(not that that was a bad thing when jake started burton- the scene was getting stale) and that will not sell its premier product lines to stores that sell skis. Burton has made a point that they are strictly about snowboarding- even though they own a surfboard manufacturing company there is no line of burton surfboards. Burton does not support skiers (aside from RED and Anon and all the money they pay for ads in ski magazines). You people should remember this before you roll through the park in your shaun white suit
Dec 30 2006 1:47PM
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hartig
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same
Dec 30 2006 1:54PM
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lyndon
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I think it would be good. Like, Burton is huge- basically an empire. If they made skis, that would draw sooo much attention to skiing. Im all for it. If the skis look nice, ill definately be riding a pair.
Dec 30 2006 2:04PM
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kepler.
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a very good point. i like the drawing of attention to skiing. all i'm sayin is that the skis will have to be godlike for me to switch over to them.
Dec 30 2006 3:00PM
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kenevil
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It could be good or bad. Burton has the money and influence to make skiing as big as snowboarding, but I still think their just trying to make money and don't give a shit about our sport. I personally won't buy skis from a company who bashed the sport, then changed their minds once they saw that they could make money off of it.
Dec 30 2006 3:15PM
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SuburbanSuicide
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The jacketa of Burton is good becuase the skis are good in the size and condition of the riding. you guys have to agree.
Dec 30 2006 3:32PM
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kepler.
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no freakin way. burton clothes are the ugliest crappiest clothes on the market. teh only good stuff is audex and ronin.
Dec 30 2006 4:42PM
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espong1321
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yea word, its like the principal u know. and makin skis would contradict that right?
Dec 30 2006 8:36PM
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jibmaster_josh
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isnt that kinda like line freedom plates?


but yeah, burton making skis would be awsome. i think it would also help pipe skiing into the olympics, cause they have their sponsored snowboarders at the big O and wouldnt want their ski team to feel left out, so it would make a greater chance of olympic pipe skiing becoming a reality. oh and that expanding the business stuff too, i like that.
Dec 30 2006 8:48PM
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J_Walk
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I'm not sure if you know this but Ronin is Burton. I have a Ronin Burton jacket. Like its not like how anon is burton. Ronin is really burton like my coat says Ronin Burton.

Dec 31 2006 1:14AM
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rocktheLPs
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hmmm analog clothing is sick
anon is sick
theyll probably come out with the first "core" boot. unless they made like recreational stuff, thatd be gay. but it may make skiing somewhat bigger.
Dec 31 2006 1:25AM
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r.w
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yeeesss
Dec 31 2006 1:32AM
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steve-o
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doesnt more money = better everything?
Dec 31 2006 1:37AM
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MLB
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except for the whole....Salomon invented the twin tip thing....and the whole Head is one of the Oldest ski companies in the world.


Not to mention salomon/Head didn't bash snowboarding to sell skis. I don't care if it is a ploy or not, its wrong. This is what it is : " Lets pretend to make fun off people so that we can make fun off of their humiliation." Does that sound right to you.
Dec 31 2006 1:44AM
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MLB
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Its not about being core....its not about idie.....its about skiing supporting skiing. I am looking at Burton...as a company, who publicly bashed skiing. THEY BASHED YOUR SPORT PUBLICLY. I don't care if it was a ploy....it was wrong. I don't bash snowboarding, and i don't recall any skiing company ( yes i know conglomerates, undercompanies....most snowboarding companies are closely related to ski companies) taking out in add in Snowboard magazine that anybody who rides a snowboard is a cumguzzler. Last time i check the Burton owned Burton....and Armada owned Armada, and 4FRNT owned 4 FRNT. I think a company schould be responsible for what it does, and that we schould not soo hastily forget what has happend in the past.
Dec 31 2006 1:52AM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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thats not how capitalism works man, companies buy out other ones.
Dec 31 2006 2:06AM
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Casey
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skiing and snowboarding are so tightly woven, not matter how hard we try to draw a line in the snow, you just can't. One wouldn't exist without the other, and the other would've died if it weren't for the one. Life imitates art imitates life. It's sliding down a hill, lets get over ourselves. If they were good I'd ski them, I like the way a snowboard carves a lot better than a ski anyway, one more head thinking outside the box never hurt anyone IMO.
Dec 31 2006 2:09AM
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SkierX
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Uhmm.. You honestly think Salamon made twin-tips for the sake of skiing?

Nope. They made twin-tips because they believed they could turn a profit on them and make a buck.

And I highly doubt that Freeskier magazine is complaining about all the revenue that was given to them by Burton for the ads.

It was a win-win move. Burton got publicity and people talked about them. Freeskier got money from the advertisements. The only people hurt are the people who can't take things with a grain of salt and see it for what it really is.


Now you can sit there and believe that the ski-companies are really just trying to make skiing better for the sake of it, or you can realize that all companies, even the independents like Armada, ect. are in business to make money.
Dec 31 2006 10:49AM
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KillJib
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exactly
Dec 31 2006 10:55AM
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RRP-llc
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Anon and Analog are seperate entities owned by Burton.

Ronin is just a line of clothing that is under the Burton name. They have Burton, Ronin and AK outerwear. Buying 'Ronin' means buying Burton. It's like the PE and Fuji are model from K2, not seperate companies. It is funny to hear skiers say how bad Burton clothes are and how cool Ronin is cause Ronin IS Burton clothes.

Personally I have an AK outfit that has worked fantastically the 3 days I have been riding in the rain. Inside the jacket & pants has stayed dry. Stop driver your SUVs!

--rick
Dec 31 2006 4:18PM
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fulltiltrocker
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i dont think it will be sweet.. i mean they make good boards but they wont be able to make good skis for a while... im not against it or for it.. but it just showing how freestyle skiing keeps getting bigger and bigger





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Dec 31 2006 4:22PM
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skiRay
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i agree with whoever said that they make good outerwear. iu have mad burton shit. and two of my friends have EVERYTHING burton, so i know a lot about the company and the tecnology. they would do well making skis.... but i dont think they will. Jake Burton was the founder of snowboarding. i dont think he would betray the sport.
Dec 31 2006 4:29PM
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J_Walk
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Dude if your saying im wrong i hate you.. cuz you probly didnt read why i posted that. Your just repeating what i said. But you did write it a hell of alot easier to understand for other people. When you said, " It is funny to hear skiers say how bad Burton clothes are and how cool Ronin is cause Ronin IS Burton clothes." I really hope you weren't talking about me. Cuz thats exactly what my post was about. And yes i have both AK and Ronin Jackets and they work very well (mostly cuz they're both gore-tex).
Dec 31 2006 4:40PM
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snowboardkid21
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hahaha you are all gay. im gunna eat you
Dec 31 2006 4:42PM
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grams.
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the first part of your sig there made me laugh for awhile haha

Dec 31 2006 4:45PM
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kepler.
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yeah just like audex is burton. but ronin is separate, it has better designs and more features
Dec 31 2006 5:04PM
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grams.
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word i got line skis and burton snowpants
Dec 31 2006 5:24PM
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titsLOL
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nike is bad for anything it does because it's a massive corperation and makes life harder for every company that is smaller than it. and normally I would think it cool if burton made skis, although in the last thread I think it was pointed out that they would bash skiing in their ads and shit, so if they then turned around and made skis that'd be fucked up.
Dec 31 2006 5:32PM
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kepler.
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sorry to get off burton. so nike is tryin to get into wintersprts and stuff like that. has anyone heard of the "Don't do it" movement? cuz i see about 1000 stickers of it all over my hill
Dec 31 2006 5:38PM
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oiECSoi
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fuck nike they ruin everything there in it for the money same with bruton fuck them.. i fucking snowboard i fuckin hate burton their boards are bindings are shit
Dec 31 2006 6:54PM
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kepler.
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^^^ i can see where you say the bindings are shit cuz they really are. the shop i work at fixes more bindings then we sell. but the boards are generally solid as hell. the custom x and the vapor are insane boards. hugely over priced but still good
Dec 31 2006 8:27PM
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Peach.
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just another company to make sick skis that cant be bad
Dec 31 2006 8:30PM
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skogenjake
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itll take profit away from our core companies. ski companys will lose out. burton has a wider distribution than armada or liberty. stores will have the burton skis more than they will have the armada skis. less money for the ski industry. fuck the idea of burton skis.
Dec 31 2006 8:59PM
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