selling out

yeah its gay,how would it differ from being played on much music or bet,it doesnt,its a way they get their music out so people will listen and hopefully go buy their records!


President of the OTC!

Everybody, Lateralis drinks alcohol and smokes marijuana cigarettes. You're burned now, Lateralis! - halo

'ive been shavin since i was in 5th grade, yea the girls made fun of me then, but now they grovel at my feet just to pet me' - Alex aka Ds91260

**NEWSCHOOL UNDERGROUND**

98 percent of the music on MTV becomes shitty because you get videos, and with videos comes directors, and with directors comes producers and with producers you get bands with no more freedom of expression, they are told what to do, how to dress, how to act, and even what style of music they should be playing(not entirely but they get pressured im sure, theres no way to deny that fact.) and with all that you get a band that has become a sellout. most of the music that is off the air and off mtv is great music and will stay that way because of a limited source of other influences.
peace,paul



'handin out flyers is jus fuckin ridiculous...when you give somebody a flyer its like...say man...why dont you go throw this out for me?'
-mitch hedburg

Yep its summer on NSers again. The first thread on the 'selling out' debate. Hopefully this will be the last one I respond to ever. Music is simple, if you like it, listen. Why does music have to be so political these days?
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Though I don't like it when bands sell out i HATE it when people start hate and flaming them when they get popular. for example you never say and Good charlotte hate threads a year ago, now the internet is littered with it.

as for bands selling out i define that as changin their style. Look at less than jake, their music and slyrics are different. The video is COMPLETELY different to other wones. Just watch 'automatic' then watch 'she's gonna break soon'
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Ahh well I had nothing else to put

the only reason you see good charlotte hate threads now is cuz they get on tv and they get exposure. that means more people watching them. in every crowd there are always people who hate whats goin on. enlarge the crowd and you enlarge the number of people hating. cuz as the number of haters goes up so do the lovers, but the lovers dont complain, so all you see is the haters. very simple concept that nobody seems to get.

also like i said before the bands on mtv suck so much cuz yeah they do sell out big time. think about it. if you were startin a band up and you had it goin for a few years and you were doin great jus doin little gigs at the local coffee shop and clubs and stuff. all that music is pure and raw and not driven by money or anything else but love for music and performing it for other peoples enojyment. now nobody can sit there and tell me that a majority of the bands/artists on mtv arent after that quick buck once they get a taste of it. the music quality decreases as well as the music being influenced by what is 'hip' and 'cool' nowadays so yeah fuckers mtv artists are fuckin sellouts. the only guy who managed to be on mtv and keep his music raw and real would have to be kurt kobain. that guy kept it real. he slept in a fuckin car while he had millions of dollars. he wore the same clothes for days on end. and all he did and care about was wanna make great music for the people and thats what he did. god damn shame he killed himself cuz he didnt want all the fame that came along with it and nobody payed any attention to that poor soul. mtv killed kurt kobain, cuz all they wanted to do was to keep showin his face and playin his music all over the fuckin place no matter what he said. now i want you all to think about that next time you watch mtv people. cuz mtv is an evil company.

-sorry for anybodys time i jus wasted
-thank you for reading it if you did cuz i needed to get that off my chest.

RIP kurt kobain
peace,paul



'handin out flyers is jus fuckin ridiculous...when you give somebody a flyer its like...say man...why dont you go throw this out for me?'
-mitch hedburg

i disagree with what you said about everyband being caught up in fame... for example, Rage Against the Machine did not get caught up in it. They used it to further promote their message by having more people hear their lyrics. IF you ever think that they did not stick to their cause, watch the music video for Sleep Now in the Fire. They fuckin showed wallstreet whats up
trust me, the '' things aren't actually there

'Know this now, you are only killing a man'-Che Guevaras last words

i never said every band, theres always an exception and you are 100 percent correct, thanxs for that. too bad that every member of rage was a fuckin communist bastard and they should all stop making music cuz they caused a riot in LA a while back and got some kids killed by riot police. eat that.
peace,paul



'handin out flyers is jus fuckin ridiculous...when you give somebody a flyer its like...say man...why dont you go throw this out for me?'
-mitch hedburg

who cares if they sell out, they're doing what they love, some one found them and said hey you guys are good and so we wanna pay you to do what you love, i don't think if you were in that situation you'd wouldn't sell out

Seize the carp

yeah exactly,if you like the music,fine listen to it,the band loves doing what they do and more than likely dont give a shit what people think since music is how people express themselves and no matter what people say or do,its never gonna change the way you feel


President of the OTC!

Everybody, Lateralis drinks alcohol and smokes marijuana cigarettes. You're burned now, Lateralis! - halo

'ive been shavin since i was in 5th grade, yea the girls made fun of me then, but now they grovel at my feet just to pet me' - Alex aka Ds91260

**NEWSCHOOL UNDERGROUND**

the fans care if they sell out cuz the music gets all shitty. and if i was in that situation sure id be on mtv but i wouldnt let anybody tell me wtf to do. id be like kobain, i jus wouldnt be all depressed and ill myself over it.
peace,paul



'handin out flyers is jus fuckin ridiculous...when you give somebody a flyer its like...say man...why dont you go throw this out for me?'
-mitch hedburg

good charlotte if fucking gay
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dude just listen to whatever the hell u like to listen too


jigga say wha??

its not the bands fault. its that they get played so often i want to vomit. hearing anything that often get bad fast.


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we should stop liking Tanner Hall, he sold out, and Boyd and Pep and JP and JF etc.

-Mikee LiFsHitZ-

I can't wait for NS radio!

money claims everyone and everything, you all remember that


President of the OTC!

Everybody, Lateralis drinks alcohol and smokes marijuana cigarettes. You're burned now, Lateralis! - halo

'ive been shavin since i was in 5th grade, yea the girls made fun of me then, but now they grovel at my feet just to pet me' - Alex aka Ds91260

**NEWSCHOOL UNDERGROUND**

in order to make music you have to make money. MOST bands when they start making the money dont change their music they still make the music they want to. the record companies may try to influence but MOST bands still do what they want. So what if a band changes style, if you dont like it then you dont like it, there is no need to trash the band just cause you dont like what they are doing now. If you like the music great if not dont be a whiny little bitch and yell sell out, thats gonna be the next phrase all the 'pop-punkers' will be using.


Gotta Love The Midwest

nobody is whining except you^, everybody else is just stating their opinion, tosser.
peace,paul



'handin out flyers is jus fuckin ridiculous...when you give somebody a flyer its like...say man...why dont you go throw this out for me?'
-mitch hedburg

dude this is the title of my fsa exam!!!!!!! KEEP TALKING i need ideas. bad!

ya if they sell out and the music suffers cause of that, then that's gay, but if not then cool
Seize the carp

thank you papa, somebody sees it my way



'handin out flyers is jus fuckin ridiculous...when you give somebody a flyer its like...say man...why dont you go throw this out for me?'
-mitch hedburg

real bands don't need videos to make up for their shitty songs




I was born on planet earth
a rotating ball where man comes first. it's been around, for a long long time
now it's time to watch it die.

Selling out is a wasted term. It can not be used until a band makes music that they disagree with, and are making it because others want them to. If it is true music, then it comes from the heart no matter what the song sounds like. If a hardcore band wants to play a slow ballad type of song, its not selling out because they want to make it. If their slow ballad because popular and they start writing more ballads to sell more records, then that is selling out. If you see a video on MTV or anywhere else, its not selling out either because that just means that more than like 4 people like the song. People throw the word 'sell out' around too much and don't really know what it means.
Rocking Mother Fucking Roll!

if i was in a band and we werent that popular and we wanted to go mainstream,i wouldnt give a shit a if my videos got played on any fucken station,music is music,doesnt matter wherer its played


President of the OTC!

Everybody, Lateralis drinks alcohol and smokes marijuana cigarettes. You're burned now, Lateralis! - halo

'ive been shavin since i was in 5th grade, yea the girls made fun of me then, but now they grovel at my feet just to pet me' - Alex aka Ds91260

**NEWSCHOOL UNDERGROUND**

Why all the whining? If you like a band's music, listen to it. Otherwise, don't. Why the need for discussion?

because we can bambam



'handin out flyers is jus fuckin ridiculous...when you give somebody a flyer its like...say man...why dont you go throw this out for me?'
-mitch hedburg