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shagboy
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I don't know how everyone feels about this, but in my opinion ski movies as of late have included way too many urban shots/setups.

Originally it was sick; when someone cleaned a super gnarly urban rail everyone went off their rocker. But now, it's hard to get that feeling from an urban setup.

There is too many in today’s movies. You can only get horny off the same thing so many times.

Not to mention, it is probably ALOT cheaper/easier to film and urban setup. No lift tickets, no backcountry danger, no on-hill setup, just drive and drop. If you get busted, move on, nothing really lost.

What I really enjoy are the crazy park setups that rage films always grabs. Plehouse seems to try a good balance of park backcountry and urban. But when a skier bases his/her whole segment on Urban, I most definitely skip it. I think, is this really skiing? There is no snow! It starts to seem ridiculous once these things cross my mind.

I just read an interview with Michelle Parker. She says her next few segments can only be urban setups or backcountry shit, this was so that she can be on the same level as the guys.

I say, differentiate yourself. Do something crazy and completely different. Stop the URBAN SPRAWL!






Oct 17 2006 2:56PM
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justinm
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urban is the sickest thing in movies, i dont know why you would say that
Oct 17 2006 7:48PM
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quebecfreestyler
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it's all about doign new stuff in teh park and bring what was done in the park to the street and to the backcoutry
Oct 17 2006 7:51PM
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dorikin
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I like Urban in limited quanitites, but I get so sick of it so fast. The thing I like about Urban is that it takes a lot of skill and balls to do an urban rail as opposed to a park rail. And so much more effort to, you gotta set the whole thing up , sometimes you gotta cart in snow. So, I respect Urban. But really think about it, urban really is not skiing and I like skiing not rollerblading. Some urban can be cool but If i want to go see a whole movie of urban I'll just go watch a fruitboot video.
Oct 17 2006 8:07PM
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720laxskier
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its part of the sport. it might stay, it might go-that called progression
Oct 17 2006 8:28PM
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7X
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i dont find it nessisary to ski in a city because i can afford lift tickets
Oct 17 2006 8:48PM
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quebecfreestyler
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i cant and park rails get boring.
Oct 17 2006 8:52PM
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Freeskier22
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agreed

Oct 17 2006 9:11PM
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shagboy
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I agree that street rails show a common trend in the progression of freeskiing.

What I want to see is LESS up and coming skiers pushing urban.

I want to see more Eric Pollards.
Oct 18 2006 9:35AM
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720laxskier
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converted backcountry ski-bladers? that'll be good for the sport
Oct 18 2006 10:58AM
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KZA
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criminal tresspassing fines, 300 bucks is about a season pass or new pair of skis  for me so id say its quite expensive
Oct 18 2006 11:12AM
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Dan-Man
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Oct 18 2006 11:16AM
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shagboy
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er...

quote me a price for say hmm 50-100 cat hours? Um... maybe 5 Heli hours?

These are pretty large productions im talking about. Not how much it costs you to go hit a little street rail and get busted. I was comparing the costs to the production companies.

Building a sweet park feature specifically for a film in no way even compares to the cost of sliding an urban rail...

Renting a Heli to film some slow-motion shots off of a mega booter in no way compares to the cost of sliding a urban rail...

watch doug's video on building the QP. That's work, that's money, that's cool.
Oct 18 2006 11:49AM
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treesmann
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i agree, i still love watchin park footage and there isn't enough of it
Oct 18 2006 11:57AM
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Ski_Pimp
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I completely disagree, i think watching powder skiing is boring (obviously fun in real life). There can never be enough urban in a ski video...ever
Nov 28 2006 7:22PM
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The_Oakley_Kid
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I agree with the powder arguement, but urban is only chill if you trick off/on to it. But really, what happened to filming on regular parks, i mean whats with building parks that the public can never hit??? Northstar does this every year, and always gets rated on the park no one but pros can ride, the park is sick, but I would like to see more films with regular every day park festures
Nov 28 2006 7:27PM
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SkiMN
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Its a legit point, however I have always seen ski movies as a way to portray the best of the sport, the front line if you will. Right now that frontline is the urban battlefront, and until somebody comes up with something better its here to stay.
Nov 28 2006 7:29PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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urban is one of the most creative aspects of skiing. park is dead......park is only for learning new tricks to be done in the bc and urban. urban rails are the backcountry of rails. i hate seeing park jumps/rails in movies. i hate super park like shit. i dont care for it. i get stoked seeing techy shit on urban or the bc. you can feel however you want about it, but its all skiing no matter what. park is fun and all, but to see park in a pro ski movie is lame. theres no risk factor, everything is groomed, you didnt put work into it. it just doesnt have the feeling of bc or urban.
Nov 28 2006 7:49PM
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Ryanvdonk
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im too busy watching steezin for no reason.
Nov 28 2006 7:57PM
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Ryanvdonk
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he ski bladed very little actually. and was originally a skier and used to race when he was younger at hood, not a converted fuit booter.
Nov 28 2006 8:00PM
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chickenwang
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never enough urban
big mountain is wat bores me just watching some one turn down a hill that you cant really tell how steep it is but ive never skied that kinda stuff so i guess i dont get the same tickle of the fancy that you do
Nov 28 2006 8:03PM
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Ryanvdonk
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i think urban is cool and good, but i do think that sometimes it is used too much. i'd have to say that [photoplay] has the best balance this year, with sick urban, rediculous booter, a nasty northstar shoot, steeps, and to top it off a little skiing in regular parks(HL Whistler, Breck, others)
Nov 28 2006 8:06PM
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[~_~]
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I am soooo sick of watching urbans. If I see another one I swear...
Nov 28 2006 8:15PM
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CoachG
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agreed
Nov 28 2006 8:25PM
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SlickRick.
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your right when you say that riding urban isnt skiing, it is literaly called Jibbing. the definition of jibing is tricking a feature that is not meant to be skiied on. and i agree with you that urban RAILS are over played. but there are urban things that are amazing still. backflipping off a house, sliding those cement things on highway overpasses, 180 over a stair set, theres a huge list of urban things waiting to be done that would be soo sick. so i think eventually the horny feeling of urban in movies will be arrived soon due to simple progression
Nov 28 2006 8:43PM
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DynastarriderGP
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i agree
Nov 28 2006 8:53PM
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XxLibertYxX
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i wish i gave a shit about this post but i dont
Nov 28 2006 8:54PM
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quebski6
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all movies usually focus on a particular terrain, (park/back country/urban/etc.) i dont think it really matters as long as you got 2 boards under your feet and are doing something sick.
Nov 28 2006 8:58PM
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aidansheahan
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i kind of agree, sometimes i think that only park riding is sick, because i can relate to most of it, and get ideas, on the other hand, urbans are crazy!
Nov 28 2006 8:59PM
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freeskier1316
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i agree with your points but sometimes theres nothing else to ride.

I LOVE IT WHEN THERE IS INTELLIGENT THREADS POSTED ON NS!!!!
Nov 28 2006 9:06PM
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Ifeinforsnow
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sick urban rails and tech tricks on down rails and shit are my favorite
Nov 28 2006 9:13PM
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tjski
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agreed, thats why i didnt like S6 or LSS as much as other ski movies... take show and prove for example, you may not have to like the way they did the movie, but they got a little bit of everything, they got, trees, urban (good urban too), BC, some park, and a shot of the x-games. i mean thats what a good movie should be like, not too much x-games shots, not too much BC shots, not too much urban.
Nov 28 2006 9:18PM
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quebecfreestyler
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you made a good point, i just cant relate to it since im from the east coast and that urbansattracts me way more tehn a shitty icy landing or shitty rails in an overcrowded hill full of joye's that are mre dangerous then a hundred foot road gap.
Nov 28 2006 9:25PM
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dweezileast
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this seems to sum up my viewpoint pretty well
Nov 28 2006 9:51PM
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[~_~]
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haha when I scrolled down, the first thing it showed was the Asain one.
Nov 28 2006 9:58PM
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freelowda
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I agree,

but kids are going relate/ski/progress with what is AVAILABLE to them...whether that be out-of-bounds powder, or the handrail at their high school.

Its all love for skiing.
Nov 28 2006 10:33PM
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Silence
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certianly agree..

i think urban is great, but many of the filming companies are taking it too far and dedicating far too much of the films to urban segs
Nov 28 2006 10:54PM
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tSki
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i completely agree and i think the new ski movies have to much urban. and i never thought id say this but i want to see more park in the movies. im getting sick of backcountry kickers, which are obviously more fun to hit which is why there is more of them in movies. but i like to see park shit, and real technical rail tricks
Nov 28 2006 10:54PM
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Pool.
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holy shit this gif goes on forever
Jun 18 2012 9:11PM
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ROBOT
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i hiked a rail once
Jun 18 2012 9:16PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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sean pettit's segment in attack of la nina is probably my favorite ski segment of all time. i think urban is sick, and i love watching it, but you cannot beat big mountain huck fests. real trees, real rocks, real mountains.
Jun 18 2012 9:19PM
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JWeinstock
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look how much NS has changed
Jun 18 2012 9:30PM
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werndog
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I think that urban is more attractive in movies because of two reasons. First of all, urban is much easier to comprehend as opposed to some triple corked future spin where it's so hard to count that you just give up. Usually in urban, the most spinning you see is an 810, which is pretty unlikely. The hardest things to count (hopefully) are the kinks in the rails. Also, there are endless combinations. Urban jumps (watch LJ Strenio's 10/11 season edit or some of the gaps in After Dark) and any rails you can find are game. Some of the most creative skiing I've ever seen is urban (Real Skifi). So that's just my $0.02, but anyway you probably can tell I like urban.
Jun 18 2012 9:38PM
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Dustin.
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Almost everyone who posted before you had never thought of triple cork at this point.
Jun 18 2012 10:31PM
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snakerton
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i agree but some urban is sick like tc
Jun 18 2012 10:42PM
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Where-am-I
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at least with urban stuff i have the unlikely possibility of going out, finding and trying the rails they hit
with a super exclusive park shoot i end up just thinking, oh well no way i'll ever do anything like that, with urban setups there is still that vain hope and chance which i find wierdly inspiring
Jun 18 2012 10:50PM
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snakerton
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yeah but it seems like urban is so much more dangerous
Jun 18 2012 10:53PM
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CheddarJack
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It's a test if ballsiness. So it's better.
Jun 19 2012 12:23AM
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Karma_Police
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oh, you're right...............http://www.tetongravity.com/films/


NO.
Jun 19 2012 12:46AM
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sklermang
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The way I see it: some film companies will capitalize on sick urban shots and setups ((stept ;))) others will slowly start to feel the way OP feels (bored and wanting something else) so they'll shoot different shit. So film companies will gradually become more and more diverse. Just look at snowboarding... same shit different sport
Jun 19 2012 1:05AM
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