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strode
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i am interning with an excavating company this summer and fall and after i have a good knowledge of large excavation i am very seriously considering building a snowflex park in colorado--most likely near denver. I am very serious about this venture and if i could find enough sponsors and kids/adults who would support skiing in the summertime then i would try my hardest to go through with it. i know lots of contractors and me and my friends have enough knowledge of parks and know enough people to make a dope ass park that any skill level skier/boarder could represent on. If you are a colorado skier and i haven't msg'd you--post-- or if you are anyone who would like to see a summer snowflex park in your area or even someone from england who rides on one please post a response as i am trying to get as much feedback as possible. I know this would be fun i just need to know that i wouldn't go bankrupt if i put all my life's worth into it. please respond and let me know what you think
Apr 21 2003 3:54PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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it might work in colorado. Its worth a try.

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Apr 21 2003 3:57PM
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bigskia
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i've got a possee of around 8 guys who would definetly check the park out weekly...i know of so many boarders and skiers that would head to it...no matter where it was built in denver.
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Apr 21 2003 4:02PM
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as if Co needs more skiing.
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Apr 21 2003 4:07PM
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Phrosty
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i would deff. check that out. as if colorado needs more skiing? hmm but last time i checked there was no skiing in denver, well cept at the kids museum.

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Apr 21 2003 4:24PM
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poorboy
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I live and ride in England and the money for the snowflex park here was put up by sprite, its not cheap, about $750,000US. you need a big corperate sponson to get this kind of money. Good luck with it anyway. Maybe you should get in touch with sprite in the US.
Apr 21 2003 4:43PM
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poorboy
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I live and ride in England and the money for the snowflex park here was put up by sprite, its not cheap, about $750,000US. you need a big corperate sponson to get this kind of money. Good luck with it anyway. Maybe you should get in touch with sprite in the US.
Apr 21 2003 4:43PM
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WIfreeskier
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oooh, $750,000 is lotsa money. just try to find some sponsors, send them videos of people doing it in england and stuff.
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Apr 21 2003 5:17PM
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lineskier10
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shit if i lived in colorado that would sound dope, but i dont so all i can say is good luck to ya, and the corporate sponsor thing is a great idea because your not gonna get 750 gs in donations
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Apr 21 2003 5:18PM
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Big_Willy
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Uh, hell yeah Id ski there. Im sure, that there would be a demand, how many people go up to the mountains every weedend, somewhere around 150,000? If you had a tiny percentage of that coming to the park than it could work out.



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Apr 21 2003 5:22PM
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strode
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i already know 750 grand is a lowball thats why i want as many responses as possible because i want to be able to pay those sponsors off without falling into 800 years of debt. thanks for the replies and keep them coming
Apr 21 2003 5:46PM
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Lateralis
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good luck with that shiat dude



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Apr 21 2003 5:48PM
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A_T_K
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yea for sure, i know so many people that would hit that up on a daily basis, or what we need in denver is some kind of water ramp

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Apr 21 2003 5:54PM
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amlowenstein
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i would spend every possible minute there go for it man
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Apr 21 2003 5:57PM
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strode
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poorboy--how much do they charge daily/for a pass? do they have a lift? concessions? other amenities?
Apr 21 2003 6:37PM
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CalgaryJibber
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start with a pipe, it could be a national training facility


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Apr 21 2003 6:42PM
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SkeeOrDye
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we need somthn like that on the east coast. come here
Apr 21 2003 6:50PM
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srwinnsuco
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Hey, cool me and my friend were thinking about trying to start one in colorado too but not very seriously, i'm sure we could help though and we would definetly ride it.
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Apr 21 2003 7:07PM
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spinks
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vail crew is down. Call ski companies, and make retail space. U need room for equipment shops/rental shops, u need to have a variety of foods in a restaraunt type establishment, and you need to bring in a corporate sponsor. Not a ski company, sombody like Pepsi (pepsi center) or a beer (Bush Gardens) or perhaps Coors (coors field). These are all major coprorations that you need to contact regarding this.

First you must get Land. Next, you need bids for construction. You need numbers, total numbers! Your proposal to companies needs to include total construction and operating costs for the first 5 years. You need a financial guru!

You will make a promise to your corporate sponsors. Your promise is a certain amount of money each year to start paying back ur debts.

This number will be reached pending the agreement you make with your sponsors prior to any construction.

dont take only my advice, get a lawyer to help ur ass out. They will know the entire procedure to actually complete this project.

then call me and i'll come help out from a skiing side.
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Apr 21 2003 7:45PM
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l_KeViN_l
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try talking to sprite... if it was profitable for them in England they may consider it in Colorado.. also they'll already know what goes good, and what things may come up.

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Apr 21 2003 8:35PM
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ski_free10
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go for it, I know so many people that would drive up from fort collins to go, so a lot would go from denver, the springs, longmont not to mention the mountain towns.

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Apr 21 2003 8:43PM
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strode
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ft collins represent

p.s. thanks spinks for your input but i am a construction management major i am fully aware of all of these procedures--i just need to know that there are enough people so that i don't go bankrupt and the whole thing doesn't fall into the ground. not meaning to be a dick though for sure and your input is still appreciated
Apr 21 2003 8:49PM
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bigskia
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i posted a link to his in CO regional forum


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Apr 21 2003 8:54PM
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strode
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another idea i just had would be to keep it open year round and just have it as an after-work thing in the winter or for people who don't get enough park riding in during the day. personally i get enough park riding in during the day but it would be fat to ride after a powder day if my legs weren't j-e-l-l-o cuz powder is my best friend
Apr 21 2003 9:51PM
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midjib
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well, before you get too gung ho, there is an indoor park opening in vegas within the next year. You would have to look at competetion with them. there facility is almost complete. Dont mean to rain on your parade. It sounds like a good idea.
Apr 21 2003 9:55PM
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http://www.skiingmag.com/skiing/cold_front/article/0,12910,402420,00.html
Apr 21 2003 10:01PM
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midjib
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Get ready to go big on the new slopestyle course and olympic-size Superpipe next year in...Las Vegas. Vegas? Scheduled to open in late 2003 in the Nevada desert, SnowLab, will be the country's first indoor snow-riding facility. Coming in at 1,100 feet long, with more than 200,000 square feet of snow-covered terrain, it will also rank as one of the largest such centers in the world.

'We anticipate it will be used by the pros as a year-round training facility,' says Christiana Wolf, spokesperson for SnowLab. 'It's designed with freestyle boarders and skiers in mind,' she says.

In addition to a ski school and an 'extreme' tubing course, SnowLab's interchangeable slopestyle course will feature rails, tables, and big-air jumps, as well as an extensive video system that will replay your moves on big screens throughout the building.

Snow Creation International (SCI), developer of SnowLab, is working to avoid mistakes like those that torpedoed Disney's Gotcha Glacier snow dome project near Anaheim, California, which was called off last year. SCI has lowered costs dramatically by developing its own snowmaking system and signing an exclusive agreement with Snow Park Technology, a worldwide leader in terrain park design.

'It'll be great for all the athletes who can't afford to travel,' says pro rider Jamie Burge. 'Plus, it'll still be there after Mount Hood blows.'


Apr 21 2003 10:03PM
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strode
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that is sweet AND it would give me (yet another) excuse to go to vegas. however my idea revolves more around skiers who know a little bit about what they're doing rather than in vegas where tourists would represent 100% of the consumer base, plus i would do it outside. i'm pretty sure i wouldn't lose customers to vegas though. i don't know anyone who would go to vegas just for an indoor ski slope (unless their priorities are WAY out of line), just like i don't think people would come to denver just to hit an outdoor ski slope in the summer. muchas gracias for the info though and keep posting
Apr 21 2003 10:03PM
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amlowenstein
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i would fully support you and i know a lot of people who would too...........
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Apr 21 2003 10:13PM
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lizziebeth
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first of all, thank you. i frequent vans skate park here in broomfield, and i envy all of those little skaters who are fortunate enough to be able to practice the sport they love year round.

second of all, i don't think there's any way you're going to be able to keep snow in a park in denver OUTSIDE. it gets way too fucking hot down here, and it rains. if you have some great plan to have it outside, i'm all for it.

third, you will have to market to the snowboarding industry as well to stay in business. there are many skiers here in colorado who would gladly pay to ski in the summer, but not enough.

lastly, (i know everyone's been saying this) sponsors, sponsors, sponsors. not only in the industry but outside of it. they're vital.

good luck, and keep in touch.

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Apr 21 2003 11:33PM
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strode
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snowFLEX park--not real snow but a synthetic uniform material that many parks in the UK are made of--just to clear it up for anyone
Apr 21 2003 11:51PM
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that would be so dope!


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Apr 21 2003 11:55PM
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Big_Willy
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Theres more pros in CO than Vegas, I mean fuck who skis in Vegas, they have a nice little mountain around there but its not very popular. Anyhow Id be fuckin psyched for that stuff, Im sure youd have a good customer pool.

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Apr 22 2003 12:25AM
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strode
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thx and keep posting peeps its night-night
Apr 22 2003 1:47AM
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skibum1080
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i would definently go to that, all the time. i live in denver and ski everyweekend, so i would for sure go to that, it sounds pretty sweet, u should do it.
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Apr 22 2003 7:15PM
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WIfreeskier
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i'm going to fucking vegas baby!
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Apr 22 2003 7:25PM
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mammothpunks
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dont think that vegas wont take any business away from you - the place in vegas will have real snow and a real park. you know who snowpark technologies is? think superpark, x-games, us open, triple crown and a bunch of international comps. They are already under construction and have a little bit more experience. Good luck though


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Apr 22 2003 7:30PM
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SeanB
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can you build one in Vancouver or Whistler?


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Apr 22 2003 7:40PM
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spinks
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dude, whistler has summer skiing.

im moving to Vegas and working there.

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Apr 22 2003 9:27PM
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good luck
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Apr 22 2003 9:32PM
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WIfreeskier
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haha line69, whistler has YEAR-ROUND skiing, i don't think they need an indoor facility.
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Apr 22 2003 11:04PM
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BUILD ONE IN CO!!! DENVER WOULD BE PERFECT!


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Apr 22 2003 11:36PM
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lizziebeth
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yah even if the snowflex park doesn't work out, even a training facility with water ramps, tramps, and foam pits would be the shit.

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Apr 22 2003 11:55PM
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mikee
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Yeah, a training center like that can really help.

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Apr 22 2003 11:57PM
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PAKpowder
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too bad if I go to vegas i'll spend all my money on gambling, crack, booze, and prostitution, and won't afford to go skiing
Apr 23 2003 12:57AM
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strode
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people--OUTSIDE!!!!!!! i am not building an indoor ski park and i am not looking to attract shitloads tourists OR pros--my market is the 2 million+ peeps who live in or near the denver area and don't think that 6 months is a long enough ski season. sure a pro comp would be great and all but vegas can have it thats fine with me. no one would drive to vegas just to ski if they had a snowflex park within 45 min of their house, and not many are going to come to denver in the summer just for a ski trip--at least this is how i see it
Apr 23 2003 5:37PM
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ColoradoFlats
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i can't wait for Vegas!
Apr 23 2003 6:01PM
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habitant*sucks
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put one in montreal for the east coasters there are tons of freeskiers and riders here u could use the big o ( olympic stadium) and its within driving distance of half a dozen states and near a ton of east coast ski areas
Apr 23 2003 6:12PM
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strode
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hmmmmm......sounds profitable but i could never be an east coast skier i've lived in CO my whole life and am absolutely spoiled by the snow here
Apr 23 2003 6:14PM
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co_rider
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i would def. check it out if you got this built.
Apr 23 2003 7:28PM
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lizziebeth
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