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Would you fight?

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asac
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http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/19428/World_War_Three

If that did happen, not saying i think it will, would you choose to fight in WWIII?
Jul 15 2006 4:21PM
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Kevo
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SO NOBODY ANSWERED MY QUESTION- Could I be drafted or join the military with a permanent titanium plate and 6 screws in my shoulder???

And as far as that scenario goes- it sounds strikingly similar to WW1, and for the most part, there was no point to the fighting and bloodshed of WW1. It was just a chance for different powers to flex their muscles and see what happens. Millions of people died for nothing. So there is no reason why I would want to fight in such a scenario.

As far as Atlantaski saying something along the lines of "Fighting in a war is one of the greatest things a man can do"...why is it that our generation lacks the abilitity to learn the lessons of our predecessors? Almost every generation involved in fighting a large-scale war wishes that no one will ever have to do or see the things that they saw. Think about the civil war, WW1- Hemmingway and company, the massive amounts of homeless/disabled vets leftover. WW2- talk to you grandparents. If they saw action, there is a good chance that they would wish it on no one. Even more so with Vietnam. We don't need to fight in a war to prove anything about ourselves or our country.

I would fight, but only in certain circumstances that I really believed in. It is important to understand that there is a good chance that either our generation or our children's generation will be forced to decide whether or not to be in a largescale war, or maybe we won't have the choice and we will have to. But we must go into with the lessons that are available to learn from people that came before us.
Jul 16 2006 4:12PM
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wh@t
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until your friend dies next to you, you are running out of food...
Jul 16 2006 4:30PM
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cjb1776
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During world war II the jews were oppressed along with the people in the countries that Germany conquered. The Iraqi people were oppressed because they didnt have freedoms, such as freedom of speech. They couldnt do like the French are revolt because Saddam controled his secret police and military. The King of France didnt have a secret police and didnt have a strong control over the military.

And dont even fucking say that Afganistan is a mess. I know a 2 star general who was in Afganistan and it is so much better that it was pre 2001. Canadian forces are joining american forces in Afganistan. America is still doing the majority of the fighting.
Jul 16 2006 4:35PM
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fujarome
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well, no offense, but i don't see how we're defending our freedom, (assuming you're american)i hate when people say the soldiers in iraq are defending american freedom right now, because they aren't. those guys get all my respect for having the balls to fight, but in my opinion, they're not defending us...they're doing something better-they're giving others what we have...freedom.

If there was a need, i'd go fight, but i'm not going to go down and join the marines for nothing
Jul 16 2006 4:41PM
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cjb1776
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When other countries have freedom and democracy, they pose less of a threat to the countries that do have freedom and democracy
Jul 16 2006 5:11PM
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wh@t
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and you have just been captured and you are being interrogated violently and...
Jul 16 2006 5:13PM
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bikerocker
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I will not go fight for the United States. India and Pakistan HGave nothing to do with my freedom, North Korea has nothing to do with my freedom, China has nothing to do with my freedom. I will not fight for a country that prevents it's citezens from getting cheaper medicine from canada because it is "unsafe" but continues to mass produce all the ingredients for meth without restriction. I will not fight for a country that adds viagra to medicare instead of using my tax money towards education. I will not fight for a country that contemplating outlawing the burning of it's flag. This country will not stop my free speach. Nothing is more patriotic than protesting something unjust, and trying to improve things. I will not defend a country that keeps gay people from living their lives in peace together. I will not live in a country bent on making racism important, so the poor won't turn againt the rich. I will not defend a country that beefs up its military instead of feeding it's poor. The U.S. is no different than south korea. Who gains from a war? The weapons manufacturers, the oil companies, and the people that invest in them. I will not fight for this country, and standing up for what I believe in is more patriotic than going and fighting for something I don't believe in.
Jul 16 2006 5:22PM
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Capt.Flannel
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according to the Navy recruiter, any plate/screws/surgeries are OK to join the services, as long as you've been cleared for sports.
Jul 16 2006 5:59PM
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corey74
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ill let you no when it actually happens
Jul 16 2006 7:12PM
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SSteezle
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i would, but it'd be scary as hell if there were to be a WWIII
Jul 16 2006 9:45PM
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whattheshit
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if my way of life and the lives of my family and country were threatened then yes, i would.
Jul 16 2006 9:49PM
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sdfjklioeur
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i would if america were attacked, if it starts out like vietnam or iraq then id just say fuck it.
Jul 17 2006 2:51AM
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C-Burg
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Just remember they tried to have diplomatic talks between Isreal and Palestin but they didnt work
Jul 17 2006 8:34PM
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MitchPee
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Ummm, If yo uare saying the US got into it for no reason, you are absolutely wrong. The US tried to remain isolated, but the Germans sunk 2 of our ships and the Zimmerman note was discovered. WW1 was a good choice by Wilson. He tried as hard as he could to avoid it, but when they sunk an American cruiseliner, that was the end of that.
Jul 17 2006 8:49PM
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Peter.
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think of how short the lift lines would be in WW3....
Jul 17 2006 8:52PM
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Alexander_Keith
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To all the blind haters of the military and all that soldioring stands for:

Temporary Military service does a hell of a lot to open peoples eyes and make them more sensitive to the cause of the military. Its not just a matter of joining, going to war and fighting. For the time your involved its simply a lifestyle, you learn to understand that people dedicate their lives to the service of national protection and you learn to appreciate some of the rhymes and reasons for the things that go on in our world. Now Mind you I'm Canadian, but my dads retired army, my stepmoms still in, and my brother has recently joined, so i support the government and what it does. Politicians get elected and make decisions for a reason, and they know a hell of a lot more then any of us do about the descisions they are making. Granted, it is our civic duty to scrutinize these descisions, but in all honesty were all guilty in the luxuries we enjoy and the freedom we take for granted. It has been military action and criticized governmental politicking that has gotten us to the world we enjoy today, so as we wake up care free and wax our skis in anticipation of next season, who are we to criticize the actions that our military and government take.
Jul 17 2006 9:01PM
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MitchPee
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You had a good point until that last sentence. Who were the colonists to question Britian's abundant taxation against them? Who were the French to question their government? Honestly, if we didn't criticize the government, we would not have the freedoms we have today. you must understand EVERYONE makes mistakes, and criticism is the best tool to fix that. If we weren't able to criticize, we wouldn't have a say in teh government, and it wouldn't be a democracy.
Jul 17 2006 9:06PM
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Alexander_Keith
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point
Jul 17 2006 9:30PM
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SkiMN
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That pretty much sums up that fate of mankind in one sentance.

As for me, I'd like to say I'd go fight and die, but it would have to depend if I had the balls when the time came.
Jul 17 2006 11:44PM
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oakjewlery
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FUCK WAR

SMOKE TREES
Jul 17 2006 11:57PM
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kingarthurs
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^ so true. violence is gay
Jul 18 2006 12:55AM
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MitchPee
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No violence is human nature, so unless all humans are gay, violence is not gay. Everyone is violent, there is no avoiding it.
Jul 18 2006 2:02PM
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asac
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without violence, your enemies could live forever.

sometimes war is nessecary, but not this time. if WWIII starts, it'll be just as pointless as WWI.
Jul 18 2006 2:48PM
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Liam.
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i dont like war...i just like halo2
now if aliens took over the world i fight them
because they dont talk all funny they just tele port there thoughts
Jul 18 2006 3:01PM
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fappy
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hahaha you militaristic fucks always make me laugh. especially since you call yourselves patriotic.
Jul 18 2006 3:16PM
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MitchPee
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I will say it again, there is no avoiding violence, it's human nature.

There is no way to abolish violence.
Jul 18 2006 3:59PM
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ATLANTASKI
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RAWR ANARCHY, 7th GRADE UPRISING!
Jul 18 2006 6:08PM
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MLB
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dude.....you have no idea what your talking ABOUT at all. You are talking out of you ass.........again. You have never went to war, and i am sure you would be the last to go. I am NOT going to fight in a stupid war. There is no need for war these days. I would participate in peace-keeping,humanitarian aid, but not war. Go ahead, ask ANY veterain what they think of war, and killing people. Ask them if it is worth it. Cause i ask my grand pa about the war, he crys his eyes out. I guess seeing your best friends blown to pieces must do that to you.

I am 100% certain that you would not be able to handle war. I am 100% certain that no human on this planet was made to handle war. You know what, ask someone to blow up you parents to pieces in front of you, and have they die slowly, if you can handle that, then you know A LITTLE bit of what war is like.

Ohh, and BTW the reason i ski, is because i love it, it is the only thing i can do right. A sence of community and friendship brings me back everytime. The rush is a sideffect, i would not even mind skiing green circles for the rest of my life.

Now i think your mom is calling you, i guess you have not fucked her for a while. Might want to get on that, she might not let you have breakfast with Jermain tomorrow if you don't.
Jul 18 2006 6:39PM
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will987654321
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Tell that to some Buddhist monks.
Jul 18 2006 8:56PM
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MitchPee
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You obviously haven't seen anger management.
Jul 18 2006 9:01PM
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MitchPee
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No need for war these days, when was there a need for war? Almost every war in the past was fought because of greed and ignorance. Not all people are like your grandpa, you can't generalize all humans into a category based on one person's reactions to things.

You'd be surprised wha tbeing placed in a war could do. Almost everyone can "handle" war. There were a lot of 9 year olds and teenagers in the Civil War. People placed in desperate situations can handle what their instincts tell them to do, so in reality war is somewhat in our instincts.

I don't see any relevant correspondence to blowing up your parents in front of you and being in war. That was a horrible and disguisting comparison and was totally inaccurate.

Atlantaski is right, war is a rush for some people. Just because you hate it so much doesn't mean all humans do. War IS the ultimate rush, and although I would never paratke in it solely for pleasure, some people do.

Your narrow vision makes you sound like an idiot, open your eyes and mind.
Jul 18 2006 9:08PM
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grubix2
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I know you're all gung ho and shit, so i'll lay this on you as easily as possible... the majority of those conflicts mentioned in the article do not directly involve the US. So basically you would be fighting for um... economic or national/international political reasons... not "our freedom". A word that is thrown around in defense of US military agression on a daily basis.

Any war that a country voluntarily enters, does not involve their "freedom".
Jul 18 2006 9:10PM
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Capt.Flannel
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Actually I'm not gung-ho at all. I HATE war, I refuse to shoot a gun (never have), and I'd do anything possible to avoid going to war; but there are times when it's necessary. Not saying this one would be necessary; I'm saying 'if it got to that point.
Jul 18 2006 9:16PM
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will987654321
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hahaha while I was writing it I was wondering if you would do an anger management reference.


But I think my point still stands, seeing as it's a movie.
Jul 18 2006 9:21PM
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jibsworth
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Freedom is not right its is a luxury, and it is easy to take liberty for granted, when you have never had it taken from you.

If a war breaks out tomorrow I will fight if required. I would prefer not to join the Canadian Forces because I know I am not cut out for it, although if my freedom is in jeopardy I will do what is necessary to preserve it.

"In the truest sense, freedom cannot be bestowed; it must be achieved." -Franklin D. Roosevelt - a man who knows what he is talking about.
Jul 18 2006 9:42PM
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MitchPee
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Well I think Ghandi knows better than both of those. Those two presidents don;t know what it's like not havign freedom, so there.
Jul 18 2006 10:30PM
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kingarthurs
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violence is inherent, but that does not make it neccesary. if everyone was peaceful then there would be no need for war or violence. now, obviously that would be a utopia, and will never happen, but wouldnt it be worth striving for?
Jul 18 2006 10:49PM
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ihateskiing4
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im not saying this to all canadians but y is it that canadians seem to be the pussies when it comes to fighting
Jul 18 2006 10:54PM
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MitchPee
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No because of what you said, it simply will never happen. If everyone was peaceful, someone would provoke greed which leads to violence. It would be easy for a person to get what they wanted if they used violence and everyone else was peaceful.

I never said violence was necessary, it's human nature. It's in our instincts, get over it.
Jul 18 2006 10:56PM
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ihateskiing4
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you and kingarthurs can go over to iraq hate over there but while you are here to fucking whine like a little bitch. you proley dont even watch the news besides the left side news and you proley just listen to what your parents tell you god i hate ppl like you. go kill yourselves
Jul 18 2006 10:57PM
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kingarthurs
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still, another instinct is to disagree with others, and i feel as though i would rather protest than fight in a war, unless i felt as though fighting a war could save lives, which it can, but i dont think the war in iraq is.
Jul 18 2006 10:59PM
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ihateskiing4
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my grandfather says war is good as long as it is for the right reason he fought in wwII and vietnam and as much as he hated being there at the moment he was proud to have done it b/c it was for his country
Jul 18 2006 11:00PM
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kingarthurs
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maybe instead of listening to ur grandpa and being whipped, you should think what you want to. i respect peoples ideas, and if they are pro war thats fine, its their opinion, but their is a difference between whining and being active and doing something. know what you talking about before you speak
Jul 18 2006 11:03PM
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Mat.
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Suck me......Beautiful
Jul 18 2006 11:04PM
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chillonhill
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War hugh, what is it could for
Absolutly nothing

I would never fight in somthing that I dont beleive in.

unless there were enemy soldiers in my homeland.
but that would never happen.

Slowly judgment day will come like in terminator 3
but maybe not in our lifetime.

The computers & Robots & Drones will take over everything
Jul 18 2006 11:07PM
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Skiing_Is_Fun
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Actually my parents are right conservatives. I think for myself. And if I was going to kill myself I would go to war because someone else would do it for me.
Jul 19 2006 1:11AM
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nichole
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fuck no, that's a death sentence
Jul 19 2006 1:41AM
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Mat.
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got nothin to looose!
yeah no i wouldnt
fuck you world.
Jul 19 2006 1:50AM
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SteezePatrol
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not for women, they aren't allowed in combat because they're women
Jul 19 2006 1:56AM
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St.Steezy
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I'd be movin to iceland or somewhere like that
Jul 19 2006 1:59AM
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