so i just got back from it...
and there were probably more red sox fans and mets/yankee's fans than pittsburghers there...
but still there was less than half of the turnout for a regular season steelers game.
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Woah, dont jump to conclusions there. yes, you won the superbowl, but think about it. the steelers didnt even win their division, they were in second to the bengals. also, there are alot more good teams that will be as good as, if not better than the steelers. there are the panthers, colts, bengals, broncos, and the patriots.
and i didnt watch the game, but from what i saw of highlights, michael young is so clutch.
Uhh yes they all the Steelers playoff wins were luck. Would have lost if Palmer hadn't gotten injured, so lucky that the Colts DB ran right at Ben and not to sideline and a touchdown, got lucky that the Broncos played their worst game of the year, and the Seahawks just got completely screwed by the refs in the Super Bowl.
And if most consistent in most recent years you mean the last two then yes. Three years ago they were 6-10. Not very good.
First off, I don't know how a baseball thread can turn into a football thread. Good stuff kids.
Next, combine the records of teams over the past 5 regular seasons, and the Steelers (55-24-1) are second only to the Patriots (58-22). That's a real damn impressive record if you ask me. And don't argue with me by saying that they had a losing record in 2003 so they can't possibly be considered consistent, becuase the Patriots are the only team in the NFL to have a winning season in each of the past 5 years.
Third, you can't possibly be trying to say that 4 playoff road victories were blind luck. I won't hear it, because that's possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Did you ever stop to think that "the Broncos played their worst game of the year," because the Steelers were at the top of their game? There's two teams in every game, asshole. And saying the Steelers would have lost if Palmer hadn't gotten injured is blind speculation that has zero merit. Finally, that so called "ref" argument for the superbowl is just tiring. You, my friend, are a retard. If I cared enough, I'd get the Golden Wheelchair up and running again just so we could go over that retarded post you just made. But I don't.
and Hoffman is arguably the best closer in baseball that is playing right now, and only should be compared to Mariano Rivera. If he pitched the whole plate, he probably would have saved the game. Young is so clutch with that triple. From what i understand, which is just what i saw on highlights, he was pitching outside so that noone would get injured, because the game doesnt really count (yeah theres World series home field advantage, but it doesnt affect anyones records).
enough with the football, if you want to argue about that, make a new thread. this should be, like lanks said, a baseball thread.
On with the baseball theme, I'mglad that Troy Glaus made up for his horrendous home run derby outing with that clutch ground rule double, and subsequent winning run. The Jays had a great representation in the game, with BJ Ryan getting the victory, Vernon Wells with his basehit and cannon to home plate for the out, and of course Glaus.
And Guerrero's home run was phenominal.
Lastly, I was so happy to see Roberto Clemente honoured. He is a true legend, and has always been a hero of mine.
No need for the name calling man. So according to those records the Patriots would be the most consistent team in the NFL. And consistency would be that every year a team is one of the best in the league. A 6-10 season is not consistency. That record puts them in the bottom third of the league. An off year means you are not consistent.
As for them getting lucky in 4 straight games yes they did. I think that the Bengals were up 10-0 when Palmer got injured and being the home team they had a real good chance to win that game. It is speculation but does have merit. And listen the Broncos were 8-0 at home in the regular season against teams like the Patriots, Redskins, Cheifs, and Chargers. All really good teams. I give the Steelers some credit for playing well but this was by far the worst the Broncos had played all year and not because of the Steelers playing well. As for the Super Bowl, the PI in the endzone was bull shit, they are still trying to find a hold on the Warrick punt return, Rothlisberger didn't break the plane on his dive, there was no holding on the pass to Stevens that would put them on the one, and worst of all Hasselbeck somehow thows a low block when he is making a tackle. If the refs made the correct calls the Seahawks would have won that game. I actually follow the NFL and know more about it than you do. So Shut the fuck Up.
trust me, there is no one on this site who hates the steelers more than me, they fucking run their mouths all the goddamn time and don't back it up (a la against the patriots a number of times, but I don't want to start another argument so don't even try lanks)That being said what championship team didn't have some luck on their side in order to win a championship? They won it, it's over, they're champions and right now no one is better until they are dethrowned (man that was hard to say)
"I actually follow the NFL and know more about it than you do. So Shut the fuck Up."
Consider this. Palmer and the Bengals were NOT up 10-0 when he was injured...it was his first passing attempt in the game. Which makes what you said complete speculation. "So shut the fuck up."
"The Broncos were 8-0 at home against teams like the Patriots, Redskins, Cheifs, and Chargers."
And the Broncos were 0-1 at home against teams like the Superbowl Champion Steelers. Your point?
"And consistency would be that every year a team is one of the best in the league. A 6-10 season is not consistency. That record puts them in the bottom third of the league. An off year means you are not consistent."
Then by your definition, there have been zero teams who have been consistent in the past 5 years. Did you know that no single team in the league, not even the Patriots, have made the playoffs in all of the past 5 seasons? Wait, you must have known that, because you actually follow the NFL and know more about it than I do, right?
Drop your pathetic arguments. The Steelers peaked going into the playoffs and defeated the odds by winning 4 road games in a row, as a wildcard, to win the Superbowl. There's nothing more to say.
As far as the Bengals being up 10-0 when he got injured you are right I was wrong. The reason is that I was not able to watch that game because I was making the 12 hour drive back to college that day. But the Begals did finish that drive with a touchdown and were up 10-0 at one point. So my argument holds.
Your right the Broncos were 0-1 at home against the Steelers but the fact that they were 8-0 at home in the regular season proves that teams don't beat them at home unless they play badly. Which they did against the Steelers.
Because of the salary cap and how often players change teams in the NFL it is impossible to judge consistency over a period like 5 years. Because of this it is more accurate to judge consistency over about a 3 year period. And when this is done the most consistent team of the last three years would be the Patriots. There is no long term consistency in the NFL. That is what makes it so great.
The Steelers did peak in the playoff but they were definetly not the best team in the NFL in 2005. But thats ok because in sports sometimes the best team doesn't win.
1. actually your argument does not hold, because you claimed that the steelers "got lucky because carson palmer got injured"...but obviously if they were up 10-0 they must not have been too inable to win the game, and the fact that carson palmer wasnt active really isnt relevant.
2.How are you judging that they played badly? if it was a close game (which it was) then the performance must have been somewhat equal. And even if they played less than what the standard of bronco football is considered to be, your game to game performance doesnt vary by THAT much..consider the fact that the steelers have a dank defense
3. we've already established that the patriots are the most consistent team in the NFL, but only 2nd to the pats are the steelers, who have made it 4/5 times to the playoffs, and not only that but out of the past 5 years, they have made it to the AFC championship 3 times.
4. Beating the 1,2,3 ranked teams on the road and the 1 ranked team in the superbowl isnt luck in any way you look at it.