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B-Wald
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Please go see An Inconvenient Truth. I dare you.

I highly doubt that anyone can go into that movie with a "global warming is not a problem" mindset, but still with a semi-open mind, and come out thinking the exact same thing. And if you do have that mindset still, I highly doubt you'll have sound reasoning behind it (most likely it'll just be stubbornness).

So go see it. And don't come with the Fahrenheit 9/11-esque bullshit. Watch the movie, and actually listen to the facts. Have some balls to put your beliefs to the test. Don't follow in the President's footsteps and say you're not going to see it simply because you're scared.

Love,
Andrew
Jun 29 2006 9:40PM
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Capt.Flannel
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so why'd you have to make a good post into an "Im better than you because I don't listen to Bush" thing?
Jun 29 2006 9:42PM
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cjb1776
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i will go see it when Al Gore starts to care about the enviroment
Jun 29 2006 9:42PM
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B-Wald
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i wasn't trying to. i'm sorry if it came off like that. it really has nothing to do with me disliking Bush whatsoever. i'm just saying that i think it's retarded that he won't see the movie, and i couldn't really come to a conclusion as to why not except for what i said.

so yeah, discard the comment about the President if you want, but still read the rest of it.
Jun 29 2006 9:44PM
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B-Wald
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he's not even going to run for president.
watch the movie and you'll see that he actually does. i promise.

sure, there is political comments, but you really can't expect there to be none in a movie based completely on Al Gore's lectures.
Jun 29 2006 9:46PM
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Lord_Piot
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its about fucken time for some global warming, ever been to canada in the winter.
Jun 29 2006 9:49PM
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Capt.Flannel
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for once, I'll say... hahaha, good one.
Jun 29 2006 9:50PM
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cjgncjgn
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yes because the earth has never ever warmed up before... beleive what you see in a movie... wait they wouldnt produce it if it wouldnt sell! But i wanan be cool so lets all hate on bush!
Jun 29 2006 9:54PM
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twintipteles
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believing a movie that actually has some factual basis is better than believing the bullshit spewed out by a miniscule minority of scientists, almost all of whom are in the pocket of the oil companies. Just because there are two opinions doesn't mean that both are equally valid.
Jun 29 2006 9:59PM
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scotchy_jr.
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now now, lets not sterotype. just because one may be a republican doesnt mean that they dont love al gore! wait... um let me rephrase. just because someone is republican doesnt mean that they automatically dont care about global warming. thats a bit more acurate.
Jun 29 2006 10:02PM
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B-Wald
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watch the movie, guy.
Jun 29 2006 10:04PM
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cjb1776
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If Al Gore cared about the enviroment then he wouldnt use his private plane that uses fossil fuels to fly all over the world promoting his movie, he should use commercial flights. If he cared he wouldnt uses his entourage of SUV when he travels places. He uses many gallons of fossil fuels promoting his damn movie, but he wants people of the USA to cut back on fossil fuel consumption. When Al Gore starts conserving fuel, I will see his movie
Jun 29 2006 10:05PM
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MitchPee
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Man's got a point. Plus, where does all the money go from his film? Al Gore's pocket is a deep thing.
Jun 29 2006 10:08PM
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Von
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if you look at all of the graphs (god i love a good graph) of climate trends throught history. They show that the Earth is going trough a natrual warming right now. The scary thing is that when you look at graphs comparing the earths tempature with the level of CO2, as the level of CO2 rises so does the tempature. Right now there is i think double the amount of CO2 then there has been in past warmings (mostly becuase of human related activities). Im not a scientist but if you look at the data, the earth should get warmer continue to get warmer until CO2 levels are brought down or controlled.
Jun 29 2006 10:10PM
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twintipteles
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yeah, the use of private planes etc is fucked up, and i'm hoping that Gore changed that, but I'm pretty sure all the money is being given away.
Jun 29 2006 10:19PM
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Capt.Flannel
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to who? I could raise a billion dollars for charity and 'give it away', doesn't mean it would be a good cause.
Jun 29 2006 10:23PM
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B-Wald
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who really cares if it made money? i'd be very surprised if the revenue wasn't put toward environmental research -- and somewhat disappointed, but it's still getting information out there. it's media. it's doing what it's supposed to.

as for these entourages of SUVs.. is that just an assumption? or is there actual proof behind it?

but anyway, i'm not trying to sit here and discuss the movie with people that haven't even watched it yet. i made this thread because it'd be nice to see what people who were originally opposed to the issue have to say after seeing the movie.
Jun 29 2006 10:24PM
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twintipteles
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I'm not sure, Colbert cut him off when they were interviewing. But while there are serious issues with the use of private jets etc, i'm tired of hearing people critisize him for trying to make money off fear or whatever. The money did not go to him.
Jun 29 2006 10:26PM
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Capt.Flannel
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I GAURANTEE you that Gore isn't traveling in an entourage of Priuses.
Jun 29 2006 10:26PM
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Capt.Flannel
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found this amusing:

Gore's entourage takes five cars a few blocks at Cannes
I was just listening to the news on the radio (WABC), and they were saying that Gore apparently woulld have saved time if he had simply walked the few blocks from his hotel to where his film was showing at Cannes. The funny thing to me wasn't that he would have saved time, but that his film is about global warming and here he is taking cars a very short distance when the cars take longer than simply walking. My question is: why Gore was only kidded for taking the slowest way to get to the showing? Why not kid him on the global warming issue?

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2006/05/gores-entourage-takes-five-cars-few.html
Jun 29 2006 10:28PM
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Capt.Flannel
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ahahaha actually, I may be wrong!...

Click for larger image

hahaha
Jun 29 2006 10:29PM
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Capt.Flannel
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and I'm tired of people bashing Bush on every little word he says. You just gota ignore it and let it go bro.
Jun 29 2006 10:31PM
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ski8990
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sooo...let me get this straight. Human activities are putting double the amount of CO2 in the air. CO2 is causing the earth to warm. Yet this is called a natural warming cycle?
Jun 29 2006 10:37PM
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Capt.Flannel
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of course it's natural; there are humans on earth, therefore human activity, whether it's positive or negative.
Jun 29 2006 10:39PM
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ski8990
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If I go and dump a bunch of gasoline in a river, is that natural?
Jun 29 2006 10:44PM
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Capt.Flannel
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it's human activity; 'natural' in relation to what was mentioned above is activities in which humans do. Humans littering is GOING to happen, Humans being hippies and protesting/picketing against it is GOING to happen.
Jun 29 2006 10:46PM
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cjgncjgn
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movies are like the internet! EVERYTHING you see is true! EVEN if it conflicts! YES BELEIVE MASS MEDIA!!!! IT HAS YOUR BEST interests in mind!
Jun 29 2006 10:48PM
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reBlocke
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Should you not believe it just because it's mass media?
Jun 29 2006 10:56PM
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B-Wald
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so if it was made by some guy in his basement without years of experience on the subject or access to countless studies done on it, and an extremely low budget, this would be more believable?

wow. your post was definitely one of the stupidest things i've read in a while. your capitalization doesn't even make sense.
Jun 29 2006 11:00PM
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FUUUCK
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are you joking, canada doesnt have as bad winters as we've been led to believe. sure its cold, but the majority of our population lives where the weather is mild like the golden horseshoe and vancouver.
Jun 29 2006 11:03PM
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rhcp
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Actually if you look at a lot of actual scientific unbiased graphs, the amount of CO2 and the apparent "warming" has very insignificant correlations.

Also, I love how in the initial post he basically tells everyone against global warming to open their minds and let his stuff fill it. How come with the left it is never the other way around?
Jun 29 2006 11:05PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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dude...guys, Al Gore INVENTED THE FREAKING INTERNET! Hello?! So when the bearded wack-job loser speaks, y'all better listen up! Manbearpig is very real...i'm super serial.
Jun 29 2006 11:18PM
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B-Wald
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how have i been closed minded? and no i wasn't saying have an open mind and let the movie fill it. i'm just saying don't go into it thinking "global warming doesn't exist" and not letting any information even register in your brain.
hell, if global warming doesn't exist, i'm more than happy to believe it if it's the truth. i dont give a fuck about party lines. science doesn't really have anything to do with politics. unless it's being paid off by oil companies, which as of now, i believe. oil corporations don't neccesarily have the best track record for putting science and progress over money.


and have you even seen the movie anyway?
Jun 29 2006 11:19PM
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Capt.Flannel
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I'm pretty sure he was being facetious
Jun 29 2006 11:19PM
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guillermolongjon2
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i havent seen b-wald say anything close minded in this thread yet..all hes trying to say is that maybe if youre skeptical about global warming actually being an important issue, go see this movie and it might sway your thoughts. he didnt bash the president for not caring about global warming. all hes saying is go see the movie if you dont think its a problem
Jun 29 2006 11:28PM
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Gtweaker
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stfu dude dont even try to bring politics on NS just please dont i really hate hearing people bitch about bush and other politicians....we should just mind our own business(we meaning america) and live life,why else would we be hear?
Jun 29 2006 11:33PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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well PARTS of the earth are certainly getting warmer. other parts are getting colder. on average, yeah, the temperature is probably going up, though it's nowhere near where it's been in the past. i just don't think there's a great deal we can do to control it. obviously there's more carbon dioxide being put into the air, if for no other reason than that there are a lot more people breathing - in 1950 there was less 3 billion people on the planet, today there is more than 6. also, as greenhouse gases go, the effect of CO2 is pretty negligible - it makes up a very small part of the atmosphere and the effects of other gases, particularly water vapor, are vastly more significant.

the point is, the earth has always been changing and will always continue to change. while we should do our best to protect the environment, we also need to understand that the factors affecting our planet are MUCH MUCH BIGGER THAN US - things such as orbital oscillation. we need to be prepared to adapt to changes, rather than trying in vain to prevent them.
Jun 29 2006 11:35PM
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Gtweaker
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u sound really smart^
Jun 29 2006 11:36PM
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cjgncjgn
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haha give me a break i was half awake when i wrote that


For every study that says global warming is real you can find one that says it isnt...

are we forgetting the 1970's where the big fear was GLOBAL cooling!
Jun 29 2006 11:49PM
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Holte
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the money Al Gore has promised to donate is less than a quarter of the revenues the movie has made already. Do a little research and read between the lines. The rest of the revenues are going toward the Al Gore Possible 2008 Presidential Campaign Fund. That said, go out and see this movie. It's a bit biased, but very interesting.
Jun 30 2006 1:44AM
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nichole
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that's a very good point... have you taken a weather and atmosphere class? There are other variables that affect climate like an increase in the sun's intensity which is actually occuring as the sun gets older (its really hard to explain right here on ns but if you do some searching around using wikipedia it will give you the low down on that). Also, there is an increase in water vapor which raises the earth's temperature which is why the ice is melting.

On the other hand, the lack of ice means that the earth will no longer be able to absorb as much radiating heat (from light) thus plunging us back into a freeze (ice age) its pretty common for the earth to do this so it's not worth getting overly upset about but still keep a close eye on waste and fuel because it'll save you a pretty penny and its just better for the immediate local environment
Jun 30 2006 2:22AM
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Paul-o-Rama
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i saw it, i had to see it for school
Jun 30 2006 2:43AM
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doitbig
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i'm gunna believe what i was taught in my college level bio sustainability class at msu. it's happened before. it will happen again. unbiased graphs and scientists don't lie. it's not the end of the world, but it could be if some things doesn't change. get off al gore's dick and do some research on your own. i did like the movie however.
Jun 30 2006 2:58AM
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doitbig
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no need for any u of m high and mighty bs either ;)
Jun 30 2006 3:01AM
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Paul-o-Rama
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have you even seen the movie? if not, than get the fuck out of this thread and watch it, then come back and yell at everyone if you feel so inclined, until then, fuck off.
Jun 30 2006 5:00AM
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freestyler540
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What the hell do you mean winter in canada...WE BARLEY HAVE A WINTER ANYMORE!!!!ALL WE HAVE IS A FALL AND THEN A FUCKING SPRING FOR 5 MONTHS!
Jun 30 2006 12:45PM
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STAUSS
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Man. Some of you kids are actually fucking stupid!! It's suprising to me that ANY skier would agrue with these statistics! I mean FUCK! Sure there have been warming trends, but see the movie and nothing like this has happened before.

Open your goddamn eyes you fuckin ignorant bastards. You talk about not just accepting what you are told, you realize you are doing this with what Bush and the right is doing, why not look at a larger picture. It will not hurt you in any way i promise...
Jun 30 2006 12:55PM
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STAUSS
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Oh and dont try to say im being hypocrytical, because i dont beleive in a good amount of the left bullshit either (loose change, Micheal Moores motives). You just gotta realize that being on a radical side of either argument is so fucking rediculously stupid.
Jun 30 2006 12:58PM
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almostaskier
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you're daring me to watch a movie? why dare? what piedestal are you on?
Jun 30 2006 1:00PM
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almostaskier
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Ah, from reading the thread a bit closer i see.

Glad you've been enlightened by this flick, which i intend to see, regardless of any dare.
Jun 30 2006 1:04PM
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B-Wald
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you're right, i haven't done too much of my own research on this. i've read a couple articles in science magazines and the like, but in no way am an expert on this. i'm just saying that the movie had a ton of good points in it, and the data from a statistics standpoint was much less biased than people make it out to be. there was no misuse of graph scales or sampling or anything like that. the movie has made me want to learn more about the subject though, because there's no denying that there could very well be a huge problem.

i just don't understand how people think this massive growth of people that has occured in the past couple thousand years and all the shit they put into the environment won't change the cycle that is supposedly the only cause behind the climate change but has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years.

and i hate you for that "high and mighty" comment. that's why half of the u of m kids suck.
Jun 30 2006 3:32PM
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