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Why heavier skis in powder?

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Bees_Knees
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Call me stupid but why are powder skis so heavy? I live on the east coast and mostly never ski in powder but my foils with s912 binding work fine in powder.
May 20 2006 9:48PM
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futurespin
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my center mounted belangers suck in powder, but i make them work.
May 20 2006 9:52PM
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Bees_Knees
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but why are heavier skis are better in powder?
May 20 2006 9:54PM
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ESB
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its not that theyre heavier in principle, they're just bigger. a wider ski is better in powder, a wider ski has more stuff inside of it. more stuff equals--depending on the stuff--more weight. badaboom!
May 20 2006 9:57PM
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Aenigma
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Powder skis are bigger than regular skis. A larger ski will generally weigh more than a small ski. Doesn't get much more simple that that.
May 20 2006 9:58PM
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SteveXs2
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Must be the construction; it takes a lot to make a burly pow ski. First of all, consider that many people that ride pow are bigger than their park-riding siblings, so you are looking at bigger skis already (180cm+) that need to be thick (more weight), fat (more weight), and likely use different technology focusing on the strength of the ski rather than the lightness of the ski.

I'm assuming, of course, you're asking about bandits, Maidens, ARV 185s, etc.
May 20 2006 9:58PM
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boakster
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You don't need heavier skis to rip pow. There are some sweet light pow skis out there. But if you want to rip bigger gnarlier lines, your going to want something stonger more stable than a pair of foils. Hence the weight.
May 20 2006 10:00PM
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MrPantyDropper
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by your desciption i would have never guessed you were describing ARVs, Bandits, or Maindes, none of which are burly pow skis. the rest sounds good though. its pretty much common sense.
May 20 2006 10:01PM
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eheath
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My powder skis (179 vicous with scatch 12 bindings) are lighter than my park skis (180 thalls with fks155 bindings), so to answer your question, they are not heavyer, thats is the answer.
May 20 2006 10:15PM
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MrPantyDropper
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or the fks is a heavier binding? the vicious is most deffinately heaver than thalls.
May 20 2006 10:42PM
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fouldsys
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who cares just suck it up
May 20 2006 10:43PM
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bret
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actually vicious and t-halls weigh about the same, which is interesting, cuz i would've thought for sure that viciouses would weigh more, but they don't. oh and also, fks weigh a little bit less than the scratch series.
May 20 2006 11:35PM
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MrPantyDropper
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how can the fks wiegh less? it has more metal.

and ive skied the vicious(179) and it was deffinately heavier.

maybe its just me?
May 20 2006 11:47PM
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Silence
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wierd..ive also heard that the FKS is one of the lighter bindings out there
May 20 2006 11:51PM
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r.w
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umm you dont have to have heavy powder skis, but the reason lots of fat skis are heavier than others is becasue since they are bigger they use more material which makes the heavier...duh..you are dumb.
May 20 2006 11:57PM
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mad_540_trix
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same with me, my arvs with p12s are lighter than my mad trix with s810s.
May 21 2006 12:02AM
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eheath
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they are def like 1lb heavyer prob, but it dont bother me, but my vicous are def lighter.
May 21 2006 12:55AM
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bret
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i know it's weird that the fks would weigh less than p12's but i have both bindings and i've weighed them. fks weigh less. they do have more metal, but they don't have the extra heel adjustment plate that the p12s do, so maybe that's it.
May 22 2006 6:51PM
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link80
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Pick up an Armada JP vs. Julien...I bet they are lighter than whatever you are skiing on now.
May 22 2006 7:22PM
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mckeeman
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maybe because they are FATTER AND HAVE MORE MATIERIAL?!?!?!
May 22 2006 7:24PM
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jfuller
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He's right...
May 22 2006 11:47PM
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supportillmitch
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if you have a powder specific ski, youre not going to be doing areal manuvers, so the ski might as well have some meat to it, so it can hold at higher speeds, like the salomon gun lab.
May 22 2006 11:55PM
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k2yeags
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visious and pistols are suprisingly light for their size. i love K2
May 23 2006 12:32AM
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sluethi
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kind of a dumb question, but ya this is why
May 23 2006 2:42PM
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JamesB
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i died out in whistler using my cr's
May 23 2006 2:43PM
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AKoblitz
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indeed bigger ski.....wider....more material...= heavier
May 23 2006 2:46PM
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Bees_Knees
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how much do they weigh?
May 23 2006 4:01PM
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hemlockjibber8
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fks are 10% lighter then the scratch series bindings
May 23 2006 4:19PM
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Bees_Knees
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how much do each of them weigh?
May 23 2006 4:21PM
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*DrewT*
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they aren't better because they are heavier they are heavier because they are better
May 23 2006 7:38PM
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Aclique_Clothing
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couldnt say it any better
May 23 2006 9:38PM
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Hotdawgg-Skier4
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they are big. float above. and heavy to sink in. but small skis work almost as good
May 23 2006 9:42PM
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Gnarshred
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Man, until you said Lab I was going to have to laugh at you...hard!
May 23 2006 9:45PM
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wolfmansbro
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strenght>weight
May 24 2006 10:44PM
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DaysToCome
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cause light skis get bitch slapped all over the place when u get into crud so heavier skis blast through crud and deep pow better
May 24 2006 11:09PM
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freekier1080
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It depends mostly on the surface area of the ski and how it deplaces the snow.
May 25 2006 12:12AM
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*DrewT*
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This makes me think of my ANTs. Man I can't wait till next season to bust those out
May 25 2006 12:14AM
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