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Chronic wide vs. Karma vs. Trouble Maker
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so im looking for new skis and i wana now ur opinion on which of the three you would take cuz this is wat ive narrowed it down too
thanksss
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i need all the help i can get, but im 6'0 165 and i ride about 60% park, 40% big mountain and groomers
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the troublemakers are to skinny for big mountain
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chronic wide all the way. runner up is karma. chronic wides are stiffer, and they both have about the same waist.
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first off wides are not stiffer than karmas...and karmas kick the shit out of the wides as an overall ski...go karmas, volkl is bombproof, i love mine and ive skied the wides and the karmas and id take my karmas any day over the wides
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^ dude, wides are a solid ski too specially if he's gonna ride 60% park. plus the price tag on wides is gonna be way cheaper!
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yeah thats the thing, if i get karmas im getting the 07's and if i get wides im getting last years for only 275. but idk, if the karmas a better ski then i guess ill spend the extra dough...
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karmas are not stiffer. it may be about equal, but they are not stiffer than wides. karmas are alot heavier too
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if youre talking about any big mountain that is actually big mountain than the best choice is probably the karma out of those 3. Big Trouble would be a great choice too because you get park performance, but good big mtn capabilities. BCs wouldnt be bad either.
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Get wides, they will be better if u ski 60 park, and they kill everywhere, light, softer than karmas
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a 1 foot section of edge fell out of my dogens after only like 25 days of skiing and they chipped like there was no tommorow
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thats the dodgen...thats the only exception to my "volkl is bombproof" statement becuz the dodgen is a crappy ski...but i hit rocks trees anything BC has to offer to fuck ur skis up and my karmas r still rockin everything...and my gotomas r holding up amazing too
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karmas are the best out of that group for everything and anything out of that group
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Karmas Next years buy em from me
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karmas are amaazing. i ride park and big/all mountain 50/50 and i love them. i broke the bases on a screw on a box but im getting them again.
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get the chronics. i just bought a pair 2 weeks ago. where are they for $275 anyway?
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when i say big mountain im talking about east coast which is not that big, so prolly snowfields
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karmas will rock line in the construction ive hit some burly ass rocks on mine and havent had to p-tex yet. peace
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I own all three and the chronic wides are the best for sure!!!!!!!!!!!
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people these days throw around the term bigmountain way to much, my guess is that he isnt even talking about backcountry... just steep runs inbounds
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the karmas are so dope, if you look at them in the right light, you can see the outline of a buddha and a boudi tree
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karmas own. i might consider getting the chronic blend instead of the karma, but not the chronin wide, no way.
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youre a moron.
lines blow, ive skiied pretty much every pair since 02-03, and theyre all soft as shit. karmas are sick, volkls are sick, except dogens since theyre made in china. and they dont delaminate after 3 days skiing, which is more than i can say about the three pairs of lines i had, all of em delaminating within a month or two.
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I have new chronics, and they are stiffer than any skis i have skiid. Maybe youre heavier, I am light. And you two are the only people I have seen/heard who say chronics are soft.
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i am personally not a real fan of dynastars twin-tips and the same goes for the chronics...so ill go with the karmas
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have u tried the chronic wide??
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chronic wide prob the best folowed after dynastar
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yeahh. they are alright, but they lack the life of the karma. the chronic blend, however, is close to as lively, but it still isn't as strong. the only reason i say the chronic blend is on par with the karma is on account of the extra width.
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if u like stiff skis or way alot go karma
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one more thing is the karmas rip at all speeds and have wicked pop.
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yeah idk, how are trouble makers when shredding all mtn cuz i like to haul ass and also, has anyone skiied them on moguls
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yeh i completly agree with you...chronicsa re extremly stiff especially right out of the plastic(obviously) but thats partly why i love them so...(i weighed around 160 last time i skied them)
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yeah i dont think i want a stiff ski, i think im gonna go with the tm's. how do they shred?
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yeah TM's are fairly soft, a good ski, but go for the new 06/07 ones, they have redesigned them with new edges/bases and they should be sick. if you get an older model, make sure you watch out for the edge problems..
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my 04-05 skogens arent soft and they really are a great ski, there perfect for me because i live on the ice coast so they can handle hardpack and groomers but there also great for powder, there just not tanks like a made'n' ak or anything
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t.m.s it is, karmas are sick but i want a softer ski and they fixed the edge problem on the t.m. so it should be ill. thanks ppls
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