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Immortal Technique - Question about Lyrics

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Markman
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My buddy and I are at work listening to Immortal Technique, specificaly the song Cause of Death. He spits a lyric that says:

And they thought nobody noticed the news report that they did
About the bombs planted on the George Washington bridge
Four Non-Arabs arrested during the emergency
And then it disappeared from the news permanently


I know there are some conspiracy theorist on here so I wanted to know if anyone has some background info, real or your thoughts?

Jul 28 2005 3:04PM
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SteveStepp
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immortal technique is big on black rights and sometimes racist towards whites

so i think their expressing some kinda of anger about the attack, i dono thats my guess




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Jul 28 2005 3:07PM
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Iv actually been wondering the same thing

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Jul 28 2005 3:11PM
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Apple
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after doing a quick google search, i didnt find anything about Non arabs, but there were a few things about bombs on the bridge. also was this which i found to be... interesting...

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"I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children, and other humans as an appreciable act. There exists a government within the government of the United States. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks.... The United States should trace the perpetrators of these attacks to those persons who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own nation could survive. "

- Osama Bin Laden (Source: BBC)



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Jul 28 2005 3:16PM
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Salomonman
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^ very interesting, BBC seems like a good source but who knows if he said that stuff

Jul 28 2005 3:28PM
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skitolive123456789
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^ that fits well with alot of theroys .... like that one video

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Jul 28 2005 3:32PM
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Jul 28 2005 3:46PM
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Girays_Brother
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immortal has a lot of extreme lyrics though

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Jul 28 2005 3:47PM
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im extreme.

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Jul 28 2005 3:54PM
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wanna know whats funny... jedi mind tricks is white and they dont like white people...

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Jul 28 2005 3:57PM
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bmxican_89
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like that skit they did on the dave chapelle show with the black guy in the KKK. that was funny.

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Jul 28 2005 4:00PM
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Girays_Brother
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what the fuck, i didnt know jedi was white

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Jul 28 2005 4:13PM
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hucker22
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i bet immortal techinque planted the bombs. but they arrested arabs instead, now its over. they didnt come lookin for the people who actually planted them(immortal techinque) they just assumed it to be arabs

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Jul 28 2005 4:20PM
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TheWorst
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hahaha clayton bigsby the black white supremisist... jedi mind tricks the white black supremisists

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Jul 29 2005 12:03PM
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eastAR5
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thats so weird i was wondering the same exact thing. IT actually seems like he knows a lot about this political shit, cause he destroys the bush administration in amost every song, and makes it all ryme together too.

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Jul 29 2005 12:06PM
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^ maybe there just smart?!

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Jul 29 2005 12:23PM
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itd be cool if they brought about change.

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Jul 29 2005 12:27PM
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Mike-O
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More like latino? Vinnie Paz looks like he has a lil mexican in him.



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Jul 29 2005 12:58PM
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hes peruvian

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Jul 29 2005 2:54PM
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Immortal Technique went to NYU. He knows what he is talking about and is smarter than 99% of the people on this site



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Jul 29 2005 8:37PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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i agree with immortal technique on alot of shit...he knows his shit really well. like when he said in a song about there being bombs in the world trade centers then exploding when the planes hit as a diversion....turns out it could be true. they did a thing on it on the discovery channel. hes smart


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Jul 29 2005 9:26PM
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BxB
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immortal tech dosnt know shit. personaly i think their beats, and sounds are pretty awsome, but their fucking lyrics are pretty much the gayest thing ever. seriously listen to the song Dance with The Devil. i dont get these people?

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Jul 29 2005 10:22PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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yea hes telling a sad haunting story thats crazy...listen to other hippy songs about tripping.pretty fucked up


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Jul 29 2005 10:24PM
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Dilla
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^yeah dude..Immortal technique kicks ass.

that he is saying in the song is that you didnt hear much about it in the news beause the person wasnt an arab. He is saying that the government wants to keep andy NONarab terrorist stuff on the downlow, so that people dont look poorly on American culture. By not telling about this, and highlighting arab terrorist activity, the arabs look liek the bad guys and their culture is immediately frowned upon by america and other countries. this also relates back to The war in Iraq and Bush going in there for oil. they want to keep the american public thinking that arabs are bad, so that the war is justified. if the majority of the american culture thought that middle eastern people were good, then we would be in venezuela or tearing apart Alaska more than we are.
The whole point of those lyrics is to show you how uptight America is about their image and how we need to keep a good image in order to maintain control over most of the world.
because if the worlds countries realized what an asshole america is, then there would be a world war, but it woulb be america vs. the world.



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Jul 29 2005 10:34PM
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WHAT THE FUCK JEDI MIND TRICKS IS WHITE?

those are some black ass white dudes. is this true?

Jul 30 2005 1:04AM
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bum72287
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i think they might be hispanic, one of em looks pretty dark in the vid i just watched, and they sound hispanic

Jul 30 2005 1:06AM
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Apple
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do you know what program that was in? id be very intrested in seeing it.

Also, after doing some google work, it seems that a white van full of explosives was apprehended on or on its way to the bridge, there were people arrested, all of them acording to various websites were arabs, and instead of being held as terrorists and put to trial, they were just deported and let free.

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Jul 30 2005 1:22AM
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TKMB
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JMT callin out crumbz and maggots is not even somewhat racist. maybe your thinkin of outerspace??? they are mexicans, same thing as niggers, and so they can do that.

Jul 30 2005 1:35AM
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MattMcGinnis
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immortal went to college for political science stuff so he know what he is talking about for sure. ive also been wondering about that qoute for some time. i dont think he is really racist, more classist. he has a song, im pretty sure its on volume 1, where he says he has more in common with the average white man than most upperclass black or hispanic people and that he isnt going to vote for a black president simply because he is black. i cant think of the title of the song right now, but the song where he tells the story of when he fell in love with the girl is really good and you can tell he means every word he says.




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Jul 30 2005 12:04PM
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yah linerider5 ^ i agree there just trying to support there "city upon a hill" theory and they want to look good. in reality the US is fucking corrupt as shit.

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Jul 30 2005 12:04PM
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JMT and fam...


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Jul 30 2005 12:26PM
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ry.will
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Immortal Technique has crazy lyircs, Dance with the Devil is one of the craziest and most messed up songs I've ever heard, but its amazing how he gets it all to rhyme and flow while telling a story at the same time.

Jul 30 2005 1:21PM
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word linerider...if you like immortal technique then dead prez is good shit too


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Jul 30 2005 4:01PM
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Apple
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That song is called "The Poverty of Philosophy"

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Jul 30 2005 4:06PM
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Timmy_G
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I've onley heard Immortal Technique once. And yea they are hispanic

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Jul 30 2005 4:19PM
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bucknasty
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Immortal Technique is hands down one of the most influencial rappers out there, he has the best songs and ryhmes..

Alot of rappers today are not just black, im surprised though that jedi is latino (except for vinnie paz) u guys should all join the underground_hiphop cult

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Jul 30 2005 9:23PM
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Girays_Brother
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dead prez is better

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Jul 30 2005 9:24PM
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bucknasty
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yea dead prez is aight, but tech is more influencial and they both were in a song called Get Up

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Jul 30 2005 9:29PM
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Girays_Brother
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i like dead a lot more because he talks about a lot of different things and beats are better as well as how he raps

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Jul 30 2005 9:37PM
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bucknasty
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yea i guess ill have to listen to some more of dead prez in order to really have a legit argument

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Jul 30 2005 9:45PM
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Girays_Brother
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naw man im not trying to argue, just stating what ithink, i listen to a lot of both and like both theyre shit.. but i think dead prez has a lot more skill in rapping and his lyrics stick with you a lot better in memory

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Jul 30 2005 9:49PM
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Dilla
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yeah dead prez is good too, but immortal technique just has better lyrics and shit...thats just my opinion tho



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Jul 31 2005 5:03PM
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friedcheese
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dead prez is sweet but they're like crazy communist dudes

Jul 31 2005 5:26PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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no more like black rights and stuff and hating on the government. not communist tho


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Jul 31 2005 5:35PM
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Dilla
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what wrong with communism. the only reason you think its bad is because of the american government and how oppsed it is to russian communism...its a good idea, but it didnt work out.

ithink america is just jealous that they didnt think of it first. instead they have an aerostocracy(sp)-thats rule by money for all you people who dont knwo shit. we run the while country around how much money everyone has. because of this the gap between rich and poor is growing and middle class is slowly becoming lower class, where upper class stereotypes them, and makes more money, and pushes the lower class lower.



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Jul 31 2005 9:47PM
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Girays_Brother
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russia didnt think of it first either, america just didnt want to lose its trading partners when the eastern european world became communist

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Jul 31 2005 10:48PM
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Dilla
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^yeah but mos tstereotypical people that i know call ALL russians communists, and they think that communism started in russia. i think that russia is most well known in the US is because that is what we were fighting in the cold war.



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Aug 1 2005 9:04AM
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WhATS wrongwith communisum is the fact that it doesn't work there theory is good , but it will never work. Everytime someone tries to do it it fails miserably.

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Aug 1 2005 9:42AM
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Dilla
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The only reason it doesnt work is because people are greedy. I have heard of small communist communities that work fine because they arent greedy, but countries have soo many people that there is at LEAST 100 greedy people who want to be at the top of the government. It really hurts everyone when people are greedy, except for that one person.



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Aug 1 2005 10:59AM
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Girays_Brother
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read animal farm, its a good book about how communism doesnt work because of greed

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Aug 1 2005 11:57AM
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friedcheese
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i think that communism goes against human spirit and freedom in that it is based on principles and ideas and not on the individual

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