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MSP Conspiracy on Freeskier

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ski8990
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Well, I was reading through the trailer reviews on freeskier as I do when I am bored, and I noticed that the once rather harsh review of Hitlist had been spruced up a bit. Instead of the last line reading something like "it will have great skiing, but coming from a completely stagnant company" now it just says "this looks like the most progressive talent from a longtime player in the ski porn game" HMMMMM

Where did you get your clothes, the toilet store?

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Jul 18 2005 9:39PM
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-AR_Seven-
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That's pretty ignorant... just because MSP does a mediocre job of big mountain segments (with a few notable exceptions, ABMA) doesn't mean you shit on the entire concept; PBP, Team 13, Chainsaw (hopefully) and Theory 3 still do a good job with it and it's an important part of the sport. Just because you don't like MSP doesn't mean you can compare what they film to racers going through gates on the big mount...ain... oh. Shit. They're doing that this year, aren't they. My bad.

Jul 19 2005 10:36PM
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johnnypsunami
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yeah really the funniest part is, I think that the fact that they got freeskier to change the summary AFTER everyone has already read it, makes them look even worse.

ahaha MSP never ceases to blow my mind with the shit they do. you guys are truely the WORST.

'wow....ATLANTASKI should be dragged behind a truck at 90mp/h over rusty razorblades, stabbed multiple times with ice picks, raped up the bum-bum by rabid gorillas and then shot....'-big_white_hucker
Jul 19 2005 11:02PM
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STAUSS
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lilhorseys posts are rediculous has any one else noticed?

What?

P m P 2oo5

Jul 19 2005 11:22PM
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Lilhorsey
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he ain't gonna clear up shit, at least not while Winters finger is lodged in his asshole. If he was smart he would have remained quiet on the topic.

Jul 20 2005 6:50AM
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Ahmets_Brother
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the thing is is that i have nothign against big mountain...i hate msp. they have the worst style of editing. i like watching theory 3 and im gonna like booter crunk alot.


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Jul 20 2005 8:19AM
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skogenjake
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guys, MSP is making ski movies. we should boycott or hate them for any reason. i probablly missed something major, like they are using profits to fund the race industry, or something, because as far as i can see- more freeskiing movies= better for us. something to do in the summer, more respect and popularity shifts towards freesking, and more money for our athletes and companies. if you want to buy MSP, do it. if you dont, dont hate them.

i buy from whatever company looks good to me and gets alot of good reviews from you guys. i dont even know what company it is most of the time.

and ski movie 3 is sick. i just like to fast forward parts.

its weird that freeskier mag tossed around the word progressive on it though. i would really like to know why. seriously we have to have an explantion




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Jul 20 2005 8:56AM
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ESB
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It's unfortunate that at Freeskier (and a lot of other places), the people who call the shots are not the ones who think the same as you. I'm sure that a lot of people at Freeskier were unhappy with the decision to change that text, but hey, that's business - you don't talk shit about a film company that you're sponsoring.

Anyway, I think this is a great example of why they're making SKI TIME.


'now i have tendanites in my achelles tendan in my other ancle' - skibrdingbitch
Jul 20 2005 10:30AM
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nothanks
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Anyway, I think this is a great example of why they're making SKI TIME.

Uh, fuck. I just wrote a 4 paragraph response since the one I wrote last night, and accidently lost all the text. So I forgot the exact wording, but he's it summed up.


Thanks man. But still you guys shouldn't sponsor a movie you originally didn't like, maybe look to sponsor someone else if your heart isn't behind their product. Basically, just stop being whipped around by your business partner and say how you feel about it.

And I see this starting to turn into a Big Mt. v. Jib battle like the last DONT BUY MSP THREAD by Dishwalla. Don't. I love big mountain, just do NOT like MSP. If I want Big mountain lines, Team 13 and TGR are my places.

MSP does not have my money in the ski industry game anymore, and has not for a while.

That sums it up, but I'm still pissed I lost my other text. Damn.



Stay Classy Newschoolers
Jul 20 2005 10:54AM
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nothanks
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Freeskier sponsored
Poorboyz Freeskier sponsored War
The Bigger Picture Freeskier sponsored Pop Yer Bottlez
Level 1 Freeskier sponsored Shanghai Six
Teddy Bear Crisis Teddy Bear Crisis
Chainsaw Freeskier sponsored Stars, Skis & Hucks

Thats straight from the site man. You're not a main sponsor of MSP.



Stay Classy Newschoolers
Jul 20 2005 10:58AM
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ESB
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Oops- I meant to post that under my alias. Oh well. :)

At any rate, I'll say it again- it's too bad that the people who think the same as you aren't the ones calling the shots.


'now i have tendanites in my achelles tendan in my other ancle' - skibrdingbitch
Jul 20 2005 11:10AM
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Girays_Brother
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^and thats why ski time is coming out

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Jul 20 2005 11:13AM
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Lilhorsey
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"It's unfortunate that at Freeskier (and a lot of other places), the people who call the shots are not the ones who think the same as you."


Ones calling the shots at Freeskier = big sloppy abused pussies

And for the record Freeskier does not have anything to do wth sponsoring this year's MSP debacle.

Jul 20 2005 11:27AM
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bigmtneastcoast
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Fuck freeskier, thats the lamest thing i've ever heard.

Jul 20 2005 11:54AM
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Phrosty
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it's all just bullshit, whoever got there first is who gets the money, ie msp, pbp. I would rather support good ol boy warren than msp.




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Jul 20 2005 12:06PM
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nothanks
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Alias, ha.

And you are correct man, Ski Time will give a different voice.



Stay Classy Newschoolers
Jul 20 2005 12:15PM
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pierceme
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everyone knows that level 1's the shit. And no one will even buy another msp movie after seeing shanghai six. Just the trailer makes me cream my pants.





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Jul 20 2005 12:20PM
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kendrick
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"It's unfortunate that at Freeskier (and a lot of other places), the people who call the shots are not the ones who think the same as you."

...kind of makes sense that they don't think the same way as most of the people on this site. This site is dedicated to 'newschoolers', a youthful, park oriented demographic, while freeskier's demographic consists of freeskiers, a much larger market, made up of a mix of skiers, over a larger age range, park enthusiasts, big mountain rippers, ex-racers, even skiers who would enjoy watching an entire msp film!
Plus, the people who run freeskier are not in grade school or high school anymore like most of the people on this site. The people who 'think the same as you' too busy getting an education, or are out skiing too much to start magazines.
Too many drama queens on here IMO. We've acknowledged what happened, but we already knew certain individuals were capable of shady tactics, no surprise what happened.

Jul 20 2005 12:21PM
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-AR_Seven-
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Why is this on the 2nd page. MORE LETTERS.

Jul 20 2005 9:04PM
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ski@jaypeak2
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I thought freeskier was skiing inderpendent magazine?? Not the magizine that takes shit from anyone they sponser. Fuck if i had known they will write anything they are told by sponsers ill just read skiing.





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Jul 20 2005 11:38PM
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justinm
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you people do not know sh*t about this

stoneham rprsnt
Jul 21 2005 10:46AM
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fake01
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you neither^^i think i know more shit than any of you

Jul 21 2005 11:15AM
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Girays_Brother
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if you really are steve winter, which im doubting, then you are a complete fucking moron

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Jul 21 2005 11:51AM
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skogenjake
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did you guys see that? he posted this thread about how we should buy hitlist and it got delted within minutes. i think i was the only one to say something in it! i said "your going to take alot of crap for this shameless self promotion". and then, BAM, gone!




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Jul 21 2005 11:55AM
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Girays_Brother
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if he wants us to buy his movie he should be paying some money for ns instead of trying to push on the free advertisement, cheap fuck

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Jul 21 2005 11:58AM
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skogenjake
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so thats why...

if its works for freeskier to make some money promoting, then maybe on NS....




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Jul 21 2005 12:03PM
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Girays_Brother
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thats why they delete threads that hype up companys that are posted by the company, its free advertisement, and when your a big name like msp i think they can afford to pay 60 dollars or whatever it is

I HATE NY PRODUCTION

- BOGART!!!!!!!!
Jul 21 2005 12:06PM
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J.D.
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Would NS accept it, is the question.

Jul 21 2005 12:17PM
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kendrick
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nah, ns is way too self-righteous to accept them. plus, ns knows the direction of skiing way too well to accept them. plus cko gets off on denying acceptance of companies that are not cool enough to be associated with his website.

Jul 21 2005 12:24PM
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Girays_Brother
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haha yes you do have a point

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Jul 21 2005 12:28PM
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ESB
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To clear this up a bit, the original text was written by an intern, and was never read by the editors before it was posted. When the editors' attention was called to the article, the text was changed because while that statement was the opinion of the intern in question, it is not the opinion of Freeskier magazine as a whole. This had nothing to do with Steve Winter, but was due to a communication failure in the Freeskier office.

Also, I was incorrect in saying that Freeskier is a sponsor of MSP this year. "My bad!"

Love,
Ethan


'now i have tendanites in my achelles tendan in my other ancle' - skibrdingbitch
Jul 21 2005 5:59PM
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ski8990
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thanks for clearing it all up. this thread can die now

Where did you get your clothes, the toilet store?

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Jul 21 2005 6:02PM
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johnnypsunami
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that intern should be promoted to CEO.

'wow....ATLANTASKI should be dragged behind a truck at 90mp/h over rusty razorblades, stabbed multiple times with ice picks, raped up the bum-bum by rabid gorillas and then shot....'-big_white_hucker
Jul 21 2005 7:41PM
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-AR_Seven-
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Agreed... who was he? Can we have his name so we can all defiy him?

Jul 21 2005 7:45PM
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-AR_Seven-
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That should've said deify.

Jul 21 2005 7:45PM
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E-ZRider
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word

I Love Head

Jul 21 2005 7:50PM
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E-ZRider
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to that

I Love Head

Jul 21 2005 7:50PM
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fake01
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i believe someone needs to be apoligized to

Jul 21 2005 8:07PM
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ski8990
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Yeah, like Level 1! haha, just kidding man

Where did you get your clothes, the toilet store?

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Jul 21 2005 8:10PM
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ski8990
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but seriously though, it was just a simple misunderstandment

Where did you get your clothes, the toilet store?

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Jul 21 2005 8:11PM
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Lilhorsey
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Apology... well, I'm sorry that freeskier magazine has its head up its papery ass.

Jul 21 2005 8:16PM
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fake01
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lilhorsey, mind your own business. i dont get you kids, pretending your someone you arent, is this some kind of new trend?

Jul 21 2005 8:20PM
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ski8990
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you arent talking to me are you? cause i made clear that it was just a misunderstandment and that I am sorry

Where did you get your clothes, the toilet store?

D-Railed Productions


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Jul 21 2005 8:26PM
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fake01
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i am referring to lilhorsey

Jul 21 2005 8:26PM
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Girays_Brother
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hes obviously not steve winter, so stop saying stuff to him and let this thread die

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Jul 21 2005 8:28PM
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mauii
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I have to admit, i'm a little dissapointed in Freeskier..

But I guess it's the same thing everywhere. In a lot of magazines i read outside of skiing (eg photography), its the same thing. Gear reviews, movie reviews, book reviews, whatever, etc are all soft and sugar coated because the people they are reviewing are the people who pay thier saleries (directly or indirectly, or perhaps just in the sake of keeping good relations for future business). I must say though, i didn't expect Freeskier to fall into the same boat as the larger publications im talking about. It's hard to buy the intern thing as well.

This whole thread is a great justification as to why you should never put much weight in gear reviews, (or reviews of anything, ie movies) writen by a magazine, they are really only filler and are should only be taken with a grain of salt.

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Jul 21 2005 8:55PM
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Girays_Brother
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word

I HATE NY PRODUCTION

- BOGART!!!!!!!!
Jul 21 2005 9:05PM
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Lilhorsey
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FREESKIER- Skiings Not So INDEPENDENT Magazine.

Jul 21 2005 11:07PM
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Lilhorsey
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I'm a god damn little horsey, straight up. You are the one who's pretending to be someone else.

Jul 22 2005 2:17AM
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NumbaOneStunna
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the intern posting the comment is true. believe that.

Jul 22 2005 10:12AM
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fake01
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everything about this story was cleared up, there is no point in continuing, guys...

Jul 22 2005 10:15AM
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