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Rossignol FKS Q's

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Lineskier-101
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Can someone give me a review of these bindings? Would they fit on my fujatives, or would I have to bend the brakes? Thanks

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Apr 20 2005 5:27PM
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wuestinator
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i have p18s on the my fujatives. its the same binding. i had to bent the brakes out slightly but not too much at all.



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Apr 20 2005 6:02PM
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Deezl
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I have FKS 120's on my Mike Nick's.

I absolutely love the binding and everything about it. I do wish that they made a wide brake kit for it but I'll take it the way it is.

I didn't have to bend mine at all and they are 86 at the waist. If they were any bigger I would have to bend them though.

Apr 20 2005 6:12PM
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shawnm1260
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i had them on 187msps

Apr 20 2005 6:12PM
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tandan83
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they are my favorite bindings by far. they're super durable and have the most elasticity of almost anythign available today i think. bombproof



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Apr 20 2005 6:21PM
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tandan83
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and i've seen them on spatulas before, but that requires lots of bending obviously. when i was bending them for my skis i accidently kinda fucked up the brake (one side popped out of the middle piece, but i was able to fix it with a bit of manhandling.



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Apr 20 2005 6:22PM
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SquawMan
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I heard that the heel piece has a screw footprint too close and that it can pull out of some skis

a shop in Canada said that they avoid using it for anything but race skis because it was meant to mount only onto a race plate

true???


also, how does the toe piece release compare to the P14/Axial 140? it's not upward releasing, only to the sides?

Apr 20 2005 6:27PM
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Deezl
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It's true that the mounting pattern is close together. I have not had any problem with mine and I don't personally know anyone who has had that problem either. If you look at a lot of the top guys skis, many of them are riding the Look or Rossi version on their park skis.

The FKS 120 does have the upward releasing toepiece, it is the same piece as is on the p12 or the Axial 12. It has been totally bomber for me in the park. The models above the 120 do not have the upward releasing toe.

Apr 20 2005 6:39PM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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two of my friends have them on scratch Bc's the brakes are bent to the point where they don't work anymore. But thats the beauty of the FKS crank your bindings up so they don't come off.

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Apr 20 2005 8:11PM
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tandan83
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i've heard of that problem of the heels puling out too so to solve that i just put helicoils in all the the heel screws. that shouldnt cost much. plus nearly every dyna/rossi pro, plus lots others use this and i dont think they'd use it if they had lots of problems




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Apr 20 2005 9:14PM
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skiforass
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the bindings are sick mine never fell off my boot but they did rip out of my ski and they ripped out so hard heeiecoils wont work and i cant mount them were i want they have very little adjustment so my skis were 2 week old and ruined for me other than that i like them just get heelie coils from the start and your good to go

Apr 20 2005 9:14PM
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SquawMan
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the heel pullouts are a drag and the bent brakes mean you could lose your ski in freeride conditions on steep slopes (trying to get down a steep slope on the remaining one ski is not fun)

I think I'm going to go with Axial 140's w/wide brakes and crank up the DIN just to be safe

if the toe peice breaks, it's under warranty whereas with FKS bindings, you immediately void your warranty the minute you bend the brakes

I don't know why some ski company like Black Diamond doesn't do a deal with a metal shop and make fat brakes that fit the P18/FKS series

Apr 20 2005 9:27PM
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SquawMan
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re: helicoils

how hard are they to put in correctly....if I send my skis to a good shop in Tahoe, do you think they could do helicoils without f*&^ng it up?

I hate the idea of those big holes in the ski

aren't t-bolts better?



Apr 20 2005 9:29PM
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Flynn
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Its easy enough to just bend them to make them fit anything and still function.

As for the screw pattern, whoever told you that thing about the pattern being more prone to ripping out is true, it is more prone to ripping out than the regular style bindings due to one reason, the regular bindings willl strip the heeltrack in most cases before they rip the screws out of the ski.

Not many people are capable of breaking the fks bindings, it is truly bomber. Do not worry about warranty on them, and usualy youll be able to get a part replacement and you can just fix them yourself even if you have bent the brakes.

First time you stip out a binding its pretty damn easy to just pop a helicoil in and if your going on the cautious side toss some epoxy and steel wool in with it to set with the screw, any shop should be able to do it fine. If you pop out a heli coil though your gonna need a remount.

Apr 20 2005 11:12PM
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tandan83
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yes, you could definetely find a good shop in tahoe to do this for you. it's frickin tahoe for christ sakes. im guessing they've experienced helicoils before.



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Apr 21 2005 12:22PM
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skimack
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I have the 120s on my MSP 187s and my park skis. They are flat out sick. I had to bend the brakes for the 97mm waist on the MSPs, but they work fine now, stop and everything. They've only come off twice, once when i came up short and hit the wall on a transfer gap, and another time when i dropped like a fifteen foot cliff and landed over my toes, so both times it was definately necessary, other than that, they are bomber and the fk120s are lighter than the P12.

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