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The new pope was a nazi

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$westside$
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he was in the Hitler youth and flew fighter planes for the Nazis, true fact

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Apr 19 2005 7:57PM
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thelazyboy
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actually he fired the anti aircraft guns but yeah


Apr 19 2005 7:58PM
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montageskier
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When did they pick a new pope?

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Apr 19 2005 7:59PM
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alpinecowboy84
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call me insane, but that doesn't make him a nazi

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Apr 19 2005 8:01PM
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$westside$
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well, he supported the nazis..difference?

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Apr 19 2005 8:01PM
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fourdskate
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nah he was just in the german military, which just happened to be under nazi regime at the time. the guy is still a fundamentalist asshole though.

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weird I just heard about this like 3 hours ago at school.

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Apr 19 2005 8:03PM
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he cant be the pope then thats fucked up

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Apr 19 2005 8:03PM
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Spam_Man_1500
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I was reading some communist newspaper that this teacher named Mr. Orlof hands out and on the front page was a color picture of the previous Pope with a swastika on his hat. It was pretty funny. If you ever get the chance, read some newspapers promoting communism. They are funny.

Apr 19 2005 8:11PM
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mintcrue
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Apr 19 2005 8:32PM
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Apple
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The deadleast cult on earth has a new leader... is it a suprise that he has nazi ties?

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Apr 19 2005 9:09PM
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InfernoHits
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it was either join the military or be persecuted not much of a choice if you lived in germany at that time


Apr 19 2005 9:15PM
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skiierman
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^ Yeah acutally many people who where under Nazi rule hated it. Some made attempts on Hitler's life on different occasions.

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Apr 19 2005 9:21PM
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kykelly05
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the pope is freakin 78... thats ridiculous.. looks like we are gunna ive to see a couple different popes in our day

Apr 19 2005 9:28PM
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jarossamdb7
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protistants are a pretty deadly cult too. the last pope was liberal, this is a shame.

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Apr 19 2005 9:37PM
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Apple
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but protestant's havnt been around nearly long enough to be quite so deadly.

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Apr 19 2005 9:40PM
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Anathema
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i heard he was a member of hitler's SS

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Apr 19 2005 9:42PM
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ATLskier
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Just read any article about him, even the AOL welcome page, which I hate.

"In his memoirs, he wrote of being enrolled in Hitler's Nazi youth movement against his will when he was 14 in 1941, when membership was compulsory. He says he was soon let out because of his studies for the priesthood.

Two years later, he was drafted into a Nazi anti-aircraft unit as a helper, a common fate for teenage boys too young to be soldiers. Enrolled as a soldier at 18, in the last months of the war, he barely finished basic training."


yeah also, I don't care whether you think it's a cult or not, but I don't see how it's deadly as it is against pretty much any termination of life which is the opposite of deadly.

It doens't matter if he's so conservative. One of the reasons they choose him was because he was 78 and having a short reign for a transitional pope was good I guess. At least thats what I heard from some news station.




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Apr 19 2005 9:54PM
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shrEddie
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yeah the "deadliest" comment was kinda dumb. not really correct becauce the catholic church hasnt killed anyone for a while


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Apr 19 2005 10:02PM
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"religion is the number one killer in the history of the world"

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Apr 19 2005 10:05PM
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hellmut
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deadliest cult? have you ever heard of 9/11 which was done in the name of islam.




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Apr 19 2005 10:06PM
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Sharpy
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the spanish inquisition killedm ore peopel than both world wars

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Apr 19 2005 10:08PM
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shrEddie
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yeah, we know the catholics used to kill people, but they dont kill people anymore


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Apr 19 2005 10:09PM
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ATLskier
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Islam is different than the Catholic Church buddy. True, the Church had some bad times with the crusades and the Inquisition, but for now, and what it stands for, it isn't exactly deadly.



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Apr 19 2005 10:10PM
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switchskier88
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yah i was raised catholic, but it has def caused probably more deaths than any other religion considering the crusades inquistion and other wars fought in its name


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Apr 19 2005 10:14PM
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alpinecowboy84
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^^uh you need to distinguish between certain fundamentalist sects and the entire religion. huge difference.

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Apr 19 2005 10:17PM
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ATLANTASKI
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it has also in recent years been one of the most vocal critics calling for global peace and unity

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Apr 19 2005 10:20PM
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CabDoctor
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Catholic Priest were responsible for the genocide in Rewanda circa 1998. That's way John Paul wrote an apology note.

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Apr 19 2005 10:20PM
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nothanks
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Still, sketch



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Apr 19 2005 10:21PM
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Apple
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How many times has bush said he was on the side of god in reards to the war in iraq? The church may not directly kill people like it used to, but their doctrine and ideals are still used to justify many atrocities.

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Apr 19 2005 10:22PM
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brokenback17
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All of you are domb mother fuckers. He was forced to serve under hitler which any boy at that age in that time would have been. He diserted the Army and risked being killed and was put into a POW camp to ecsape it. All of you are just putting down what you herd as you were flipping thought the stations for a couple minutes. Take an little bit more time look at all the fucking facts and then write back you bitches

Apr 19 2005 10:23PM
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ATLANTASKI
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its sad how persecuted chrisitanity has become........

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Apr 19 2005 10:24PM
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$westside$
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for all u people who say "against his will" or "he didnt fire any shots"- find one piece of good evidence of ethier of those, total publicity stunt

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Apr 19 2005 10:24PM
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Sharpy
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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Apr 19 2005 10:26PM
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brokenback17
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The evidence is that he was a derserter and obviosly didn't want to be there

Apr 19 2005 10:26PM
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Apple
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it was against his will... but he was just following orders, right? im not going to hold it against him, i just thought it was funny and somehow fitting.

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Apr 19 2005 10:29PM
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ATLANTASKI
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this is so sophmoric, you cant fucking call someone a nazi who were forcefully made to fight hitlers stupid war- thats like calling all of the sr citizens in germany nazis bc they had to fight- all of you cowards would do the same if you were in the same situation

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Apr 19 2005 10:33PM
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back_woods
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^ oh yeah dude christianity is love and peace, unlike the devil muslims, those damn misogenistic jihadists. (yeah i know its spelled wrong.)
---> how about the catholic church's stand on contraceptive use? by influenceing millions of people NOT to wear condoms, they had done a GREAT job of spreading AIDS (especially in southern africa).
----> having a new conservative pope is probably not a good idea, it will have a reducing effect on the church, likely whittling it down to the hardliners
----->also mr "9/11 which was done in the name of islam" how about G. bushys "in gods will" policies? theyre pretty good arent they? yeah man i love em too. See y'all at Abu Graihb!
-----? while this does not in any way excuse muslim terrorist actions, remember that ISlam is a newer relegion. At this stage in its life christianity was having crusades and killing on sight everybody who wasnt christian, often in pretty bad ways.

oh and like the other guys said, the popes having served in the hilter youth etc.. does not make him a Nazi. for kids in germany at that time, they a) were brainwashed as hell and b) they didnt have a choice anyway. The Nazis were a political group, anyway.


all in all- no i am not excusing the actions of islamic terrorist groups/attacking the catholic church, im all for the church and the people responsible for blowing up the world trade center deserve anything they get. in the way of death.

but still....think about it all before you speak

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Apr 19 2005 10:36PM
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Meh42
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actually nazi stands for something like national socialist party in german, and by joining a nations armed forces your basically a member of the party, yes technically he was a nazi. the nazi people infer when they say that is something entirely different though.

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Apr 19 2005 10:36PM
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ATLANTASKI
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no the fucking africans have spread aids to them selves with made up beliefs such that if you are infected with aids, procreating with a virgin will cure you and so on.....

and the catholic church has spent tens of millions in promoting absitence and aids prevention all of africa, we dont support contraceptives bc we dont believe in pre marital sex- thats like saying hindus(this is totally theorretical) wouldnt give starving africans in a famine cows bc they dont believe in the slaughter of bovine animals

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Apr 19 2005 10:40PM
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JackBach
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Actually, control for resources and the struggle for power are the biggest causes for killing in this world. Religion is the propaganda and the platform for keeping the people in line, on a conservative, constrained, and restricted perspective and thought process. It's really quite brilliant: you take humans, a rather unenlightened bunch as a whole, with no real answers to our most intriguing questions and give them religion, which quenches their thirst for direction. In order have the masses follow the leaders, they must be persuaded and the fear of God, especially in Western religions (i.e. Catholicsm, the variations of Christianity), and in addition Islam, is one of the best ways to control the people.

People in power want control, but in order to control you must first satisfy the pawns who will fight your wars.

Of course that is some highly controversial material and I doubt it is entirely accurate, but there is definitely some truth to it.

My only real point is that regligion is the excuse, power and resource control are the reasons.

Oh, and to address the subject matter of the post (sorry its so late in my post), many Germans during WWII were against the agenda of Hitler. In fact, Hitler survived at least one (if not more) assassination attempts from his own party. Many people knew what was happening and just simply did nothing to stop it because it BENEFITTED THEM. Hitler was one of the most motivational and powerful leaders in the history of our species. Unfortunately, he was fucking insane and evil. He was able to convince the people of a ludicrous idea because they were in economic and social strife.

Just like humans as a whole, seeking existential answers, the Germans followed under Hitler because he promised them greatness, the answer to their domestic economic and social problems.

Oh yeah, and Im on vicodin, so don't get all pissed off at me, NS, I'm just discussing.

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Apr 19 2005 10:45PM
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back_woods
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"by joining a nations armed forces your basically a member of the party, yes technically he was a nazi."
no dude listen to yourself here. hes "basically" a member of the party not "technically". im sorry to split hairs here, and yes i know i sound like a douchebag but its not the same thing. Working for the NCC does not make you a liberal. Also, Nazi is spometimes used to represent a mindset, e.g. an idealogy (Nazism). As far as anyone can tell, the nw pope did not subscribe to that idealogy.

alantaski, yes your right they do have some fucked up beliefs that cause a lot of their own problems. yes your right the church has spent a lot of money. No you are not right that if you tell a guy hes never allowed to have sex until hes married hes going to obey it, and no your not right in saying that throwing money at a guy having sex without a condom is going to help him not get aids.

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Apr 19 2005 10:46PM
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back_woods
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oh yeah and one of the things im saying is that that beleife in pre-martial sex is causing problems which giving money to abstinenec and other programs which you dont define does not seem to be helping.

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Apr 19 2005 10:47PM
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ATLANTASKI
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i basically think africa is soo fucked now that we pretty much should have no hope for their current generation of 20-40 year olds and start over its sad, my mom goes over therre like 3 times a year for work and tells me how fucked up it is

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Apr 19 2005 10:48PM
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Yes, the struggle for power is the killer, but the religion is what the people follow. They dont follow someones need for power. Religion is a form of mind control, and it is has been the cause of many millions of deaths. befor you say "religion isnt mind control" think about how you were brought up, and which out of all the religions on the planet is the "right" one. Its all diffrent people trying to control us in diffrent ways. I dont know alot about the history of religions, and they might not have started that way, but it is what they have evolved into.
We live in a paradox. We crave order and leadership, yet all through out history, Power has crupted the people who its been given to, or we have been tricked or forced into giving it to croupt people. religion has been the medium and the catalyst for most of the killing in our history.

I am not saying that religion is a bad thing, i am saying that it has been in the wrong hands and been used improperly. Its amazing how people can twist the doctrine into meaning just about anything.

Altantaski, That doesnt seem very Christian of you, to just "Give up" on an entire generation of people.

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Apr 19 2005 11:24PM
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JackBach
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Yeah, I completely agree with you. I was basically trying to say what you saying. Read the last lines of my post and that explains any confusion, haha.


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Apr 20 2005 10:56AM
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thats fucked up man

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Apr 20 2005 11:00AM
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Bangor
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that's what I'm thinking. They basically elected an old dude so that he'll die soon and they won't have to live with any decisions that he makes for long. Instead of having a pope for 30 some odd years.

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