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style on rails, skiers dont have it

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NoTeefa
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just watched stereotype and watched the guys doing some really technical rails (triple kinks and such) it was cool but kinda annoying to see their arms flailing everywhere while they are sliding. i think its time we stop working on doing huge quintuple kink rails, and start working on have more control while we're jibbin, make it look easy instead of like you're having a terrible time balancing yourself, anyways, just a thought


THE SPRINKLER: get butt naked and then do a 1260 while taking a piss, i expect this trick to win many comps this coming season.
Oct 21 2002 12:00PM
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TheManOhYea
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No the idea of twin tip on 2 planks
Skiing or skiboards we do it for the love of the sport.
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Oct 23 2002 7:15AM
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Balmdogg
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it was a joke you wombat, we are all aware. hooray for riding and all that crap.
ever wonder if iliterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup???
Oct 23 2002 7:23AM
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aclsarescary
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The link worked for me. An d ski blades came from Twin tip skis. The 1080 came before line was ever a company. I bet if u ask Jason Leventhal hill tell that he modeled them after those skis.








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Oct 23 2002 1:07PM
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1080enemy
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I don't want this thread to become another ski vs anything else forum. its about skier style, not how the twin tip came to be. so let it go. bladers can have style too, its just not what the majority of the people on this site want to see. create another forum about that if you really want to. and the link worked for me too.
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Oct 23 2002 2:20PM
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Sanchez
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To everyone who said that the pros lack style because they wave their arms when riding 80 foot quad kinks, you obviously have NO APPRECIATION of what's difficult in the sport of skiing. If you truly knew how difficult it was do do rails like an 80 foot quad kink in an URBAN SETTING, then you would be quick to praise it and not poke holes in it.

The only people in the WORLD to grease the 80 foot quad-kink at Carleton University (see Guinea Pigs, Stereotype, Strike Three, ...) were Dave Crichton and Scott Hibbert. Several top 'pros' put in MANY attempts, including rail gurus Steele Spence and Pete Olenick. Just because Hibbert and Crichton greased it doesn't make them better, but it does demand mad props and some GD respect.

Like Ski Bum Productions said, a lot of it comes down to style vs. technical. It's easy to say 'I like something smooth and stylie', but the fact is that it's the bigger and more difficult tricks that demand the utmost respect, especially when done with style.

Speaking of which, could someone define style on a rail for me? I mean, other than riding out a rail fully while in complete balance, I am not sure there's a heck of a lot more you can do. Sure there's things like 270 on/off and transfers, but you have to be realistic, especially in urban settings, and especially when ski grinding itself is in its infancy. It's all subjective in the end...
Oct 23 2002 4:23PM
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Cam
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well said!


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Oct 23 2002 4:28PM
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GrippinGs
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no more posts r needed...sanchez nailed it. if u respond furthur to this post u r dumb
Oct 23 2002 4:52PM
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kootneyskibum
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that sshaped rail that taner does is fuckin insane. i dont know what flick its in but the foto is in the freeskier with sarah and kristi on the cover.
Oct 23 2002 4:56PM
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GrippinGs
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u r dumb
Oct 23 2002 4:58PM
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jensen
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not only is pep really stylie on rails but he can do them just as good unnatural. look at his 4 shots in happy dayz of the staircase rail. the first one is natural for him and then the last three are all unnatural.
Oct 23 2002 5:14PM
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GrippinGs
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or maybe the first is unnatural and the rest r natural
Oct 23 2002 5:22PM
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jensen
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no i'm sure that he slides left foot forward so the first is natural and the last three are unnatural.
Oct 23 2002 5:28PM
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NoTeefa
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hey 'theman', never post on one of my threads again, or i will cyber bitch slap you.

sanchez, again i am not saying i can do better, but i expect to see more than a sloppy railslide from a 'pro' skier, and believe me, i definitley understand how difficult it is, but if i was getting paid to ski, i would not let shots like that get in my film segment


THE SPRINKLER: get butt naked and then do a 1260 while taking a piss, i expect this trick to win many comps this coming season.
Oct 23 2002 5:39PM
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1080enemy
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I think that a person has style when sliding a rail in perfect balance. They can have their arms up, at their sides, or any position they want to and still have style. If a person is flailing all over the place I don't see that as style. I see it as someone learning. if a person is flailing during any sort of jump they don't have good style. any body postition is a style. but lack of control is not. yes they still have mad skillz to slide a quad kink 40 ft rail. You don't flail if you are comfortably balanced, in the air, on a rail, or simply cruising down a groomed run. style can be many things, but being unbalanced is not a style in my mind.
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Oct 23 2002 6:25PM
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Cam
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but don't you think maintaining your balence is important, i mean even more so on a long kinked rail? props for just staying on...


keep on keepin' on - Joe Dirt
Oct 23 2002 10:00PM
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SkiBumProductions
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If i were getting paid to ski i would let any shot that showed how good i was into my segment.

If you were gonna be featured in Johnny's next film and had these two shot options which would you choose:

1. No somewhat sketchy rails with an arm wave, i'll just stick to the straight easy ones in the park with a 270 off...

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2. 80 ft urban 4 kink, longest urban kinker ever done, with an arm wave at the end.

the choice is obvious. there is a reason why you are seeing these so called 'sketchy' shots in all the new movies, its because they are absolutely insane and require TONS of skill.


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Oct 24 2002 1:36AM
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1080enemy
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yeah, I'm stoked that a rail that size has been nailed. I'm just saying in general that I/ME, not you or anyone else necissarily, like seeing fluid relaxed rail hits. I'm not saying that his skill is not amazing or that I don't enjoy seeing the length of rail increase. I just don't think that the 80 ft kink has the same asthetics that a shorter rail might allow.
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Oct 24 2002 2:03AM
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skier_boy26
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some skiers have some style on rails. backflip onto or off a rail is pretty spiffy by any stndards, but with long rails, that wavy arm stuff by less experienced skiers is disturbing

-Grant-

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Oct 24 2002 2:06AM
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lineskier10
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yeah candides flip off thje rail was disgusting
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Oct 24 2002 8:22AM
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GrippinGs
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pretty sure he means candide in happy dayz
Oct 24 2002 11:45AM
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undercarriage
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Well I know the flat to rainbow at whistler....Rory Bushfield did the back 90 off the rail. Their is a sequence shot if it in the new Freeskier







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Oct 24 2002 2:25PM
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Cam
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McCmurry, Candide and Bushfield all did it



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Oct 24 2002 3:45PM
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NoTeefa
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candide did a back 270 off it, pretty fucking ill


THE SPRINKLER: get butt naked and then do a 1260 while taking a piss, i expect this trick to win many comps this coming season.
Oct 24 2002 3:46PM
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