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Canon ZR 80

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deleted000
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Okay I'm just getting into filming and editing and shit so I need a camera that will get me decient looking footage but not break the bank. This camera looks like it will work, it has the MiniDV feature and lots of other good stuff too. If you guys don't think it's good enough what other suggestions do you have?

And what would you recomend for editing, I can just download it easy so price isn't a case here. It needs to be user friendly and easy to use but I want to make some sweet shit on it. Oh and I have a computer with Windows ME that will be dedicated to only video editing, so storage and whatnot isn't a problem. Thanks guys, any help is great :)

Mar 17 2005 10:17PM
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if its digital it should be fine, and for editin program u prob wanna buy a good one, resonably priced of course











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Mar 17 2005 10:19PM
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deleted000
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I can just download the editing shit, so it dosn't matter how much it costs.

Mar 17 2005 10:39PM
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nychka
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is the canon ZR 80 3CCD?


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Mar 17 2005 10:49PM
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Huckasorass
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Yo-ho Nick if you can "download... and I don't suggest it cause it's mean..." programs, get adobe premier, HUGE learning curve, but you can't top it

Mar 17 2005 10:57PM
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deleted000
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So adobe premier for editing even though it's tough to figure out?

Not what about for cameras, any other cameras that fit my specifications but not too expensive?

Mar 17 2005 11:02PM
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Huckasorass
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ZR 80's good, I have a lesser cannon and it's been great. Premier is unbeleivable just set aside a weekend for yourself to go through the menus and trial and error. You can do EVERYTHING you would want, now and in the future

Mar 17 2005 11:16PM
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deleted000
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How easy is it to put the footage onto your computer and then into the editing program. And what type of digital tape things does it use?

Mar 17 2005 11:25PM
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skiman540
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idk what the camera uses, but i love my sony w/ miniDV, works great. And i agree to get Premiere if you can. Its so awesome, i got it from a friend and couldnt be happier.




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Mar 17 2005 11:43PM
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skiman540
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i forgot, make sure it has a firewire connection to the computer, so much faster and better quality than USB.




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Mar 17 2005 11:44PM
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aggro_sk8
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um, what kind of tape does it use? well if its got the "mini-dv" feature, that means the tape is mini-dv. its not a feature. its a format. as for imprting it to the computer, you just plug it in, and press import. not too hard to figure out.

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Mar 18 2005 12:01AM
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skiman540
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premiere is a little more difficult to load video onto the computer, but its not that bad to figure out. Its definitely not as user friendly as some of the really simple programs, but its so much better once you spend a day or 2 getting used to it.




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Mar 18 2005 12:11AM
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premier is really good to use, and all the basic editing steps are super easy to figure out

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Mar 18 2005 12:39AM
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deleted000
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Okay, after reading reviews it says that the main disadvantage is that there is no USB... so how will I transfer my footy onto the comp? Someone said I need to buy some kind of FireWire, what's that do?

Mar 18 2005 2:46PM
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ECfreeski3
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if there is no USB then... it must have firewire. firewire is somewhat like USB but much faster. theres also USB 2 that is much faster than USB 1 but not quite as fast as firewire i think.

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Mar 18 2005 2:52PM
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deleted000
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Yeah I'll talk to the guy at the store and see what he says.

Mar 18 2005 3:04PM
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delete2
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I have the ZR65 and it’s awesome. I recommend getting some kind of wide angle lens for it. I have a 0.5X digital wide angle and it works really well. You can be 2 feet see the whole image perfectly, without the lens you don’t get the same type of footage. That lens will probably cost you a good $150-$200 on top of the camera.

As for the whole fire wire issue. I didn’t have a fire wire card in my computer or the cable when I bought the camera. It was kind of a piss off at first. I brought my computer in and got them to install a fire wire card and a bought the cable and it cost me about $150. Your computer most likely doesn’t have the card in it now but check. As for importing footage with the fire wire... it’s a very good speed.

Hope that helps, if you need anything else ask.


Mar 18 2005 3:04PM
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deleted000
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So just to sum it up this is what you guys are telling me:

-The camera is good for begginers like myself but a wide angle lens would be nice too.

-Get a FireWire card and cable for my computer.

-Adobe Premier for editing

Thanks guys. I really appreciate the help :)

Mar 18 2005 5:55PM
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SnowCoast
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Canon ZR 80's are shit camcorders, they are 1 CCD, tiny, have limited ability for add-ons, and overall bad quality. Your not going to get good quality through a low end cam, you have to shell out for good quality.

Yes, it uses Firewire, thus you will need a card for your computer through PCI, make sure that you have room. And a cable. If you are going to shoot alot, you will need a large hard drive to store all your raw video because that takes up a lot of space.

Adobe Premiere for PC, Final Cut Pro for Mac.

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Mar 18 2005 6:15PM
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deleted000
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Well what camera would you recomend then, I don't need anything awesome I just need a camcorder that will get me good wuality footage so I can edit it.

Mar 18 2005 6:30PM
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anyone know anything about the optura 20?

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Mar 18 2005 7:48PM
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deleted000
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Basicly all I want to know is, will this camera get me good looking footage. I want it to be clear and the camera seems to be excelent for the price. Canon is pretty much top of the line shit so my guess is that this cam is good quality. Please help me out here guys...

Mar 18 2005 11:49PM
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SnowCoast
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Yes, Canon's are excellent camera's, but when you are talking ZR 80 your talking the low end of their camcorders, meant to be economical rather than high performance. Optura's are a step up, I'd recommend one of those over a ZR. Or check out Panasonic's PV-GS line.

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Mar 22 2005 7:12PM
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