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4 Frnt skis

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holyhucker
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hey i am thinkin about buyin some new skis and wanted 2 kno what ya'll had to say bout 4 frnt skis. all i kno i they are really $$$. are they light? are they strong? what about flex?

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Mar 14 2005 9:21AM
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KZA
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all you know is they cost a lot, and your thinking of buying them. just cuz there expensive doesnt mean there the best

Mar 14 2005 9:27AM
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holyhucker
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i didnt say they were the best, i just want to see what other people hav to say about them

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Mar 14 2005 9:31AM
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quebecfreestyler
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They area bit pricey but they are so great, I rode the msp for one year and all I have to say is that this ski can do it all from from powder to park to groomed. they are super stable and I was not afraid at allgoing at mach 3 fakie with those.

This year, I skied the Stl fro 2 monthys and I'm compltetly satisfied with the ski. the ski have so much pop, it's incredible. they fell so light andthey are some of the best carverin the twin tip categori both foward then backward.

So 4frnt is making som of the best skis in the industry, the graphics are dope and the company really care about the sport and the people making it progress.
So if you want a great ski and/or wanna support peoples who realy support you 4 frnt is one good choice

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Mar 14 2005 9:45AM
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___ASP___
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i like mine, i have 180 msps, they are really solid for landing tricks, but they are stiff, if u want a less stiff si go with the stls, but 4 frnt makes good skis

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Mar 14 2005 1:19PM
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Justo8484
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i have 180 msps. i really like how they ski, but before buying them, you have to know that its not a turny ski. 25m turning radius does not make short quick turns, but that suits my style of skiing. they work OK on groomers, obviously not as well as something a little narrower though. they held an edge well before i hit rails with them. i have been on my current pair for maybe a month and i cracked an edge in 3 places underfoot, which is my only complaint thus far. durability wise, they arent quite as bombproof as everyone hyped them up to be, but still a very solid ski. they are holding up much better than my 1080s or my brother's troublemakers did. i had an issue earlier this season with another pair of 4frnts and everyone at 4frnt was very helpful with getting me a new pair of skis as quickly as possible. props to 4frnt for making an all around solid product backed by the best customer service i have encountered with any ski company so far. dynastar woulndt warrenty my brother's TMs that were snapped in half and 4frnt gave me a new pair for a bubble in the topsheet.

Mar 14 2005 1:27PM
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JIB_NISSE
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how are the msp's in park? cause there graphics are so much nicer this year than the stl's

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Mar 14 2005 1:56PM
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bdskier
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I have 183 stl's, they're incredibly light, feel like nothing. They're fun in the park, but seem to soft for skiing hard out of the park. I'm considering selling them, they only have 2 days on them.

Mar 14 2005 2:17PM
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LittleDevil720
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i have some msp 170's. an awesome all mountain ski.

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Mar 14 2005 2:22PM
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bcenemy
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How's the flex compared to Scratch BC's?

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Mar 14 2005 3:04PM
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LittleDevil720
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there prtetty stiff, ilike a stiffer ski though..

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Mar 14 2005 3:33PM
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faah
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mine are delaming under the boot

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Mar 14 2005 5:04PM
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Rick_Husted
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i skied msps for this whole season. i didnt really like them all that much. cosmetically they get destroyed very fast. they arent very good for carving. they arent that great for riding switch due to the pintail desighn.
they are however awesome for deep snow and wide open turns.

Mar 14 2005 7:28PM
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bret
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^what is the pintail design?



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Mar 14 2005 9:20PM
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skier150
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Are the edges of the STL reccessed? I have been skiing mine for a week or so and it seems to me like they are base high. It could be that they came base high for initial tuning, or it could be like that for sliding rails? So far I am do not like the way they ski on piste, but base high could explain that... I hope.

Mar 14 2005 9:28PM
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michelle
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Hey you stole my icon..

Mar 14 2005 9:36PM
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VTpublicenemy9
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ha no where around where i live sells them

Mar 14 2005 9:47PM
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bdskier
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I don't believe the edges on my stl's are recessed, I've waxed them and tuned them and they seem fine.

Mar 14 2005 10:30PM
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_alli_
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This is my frist year on my msp's and I absolutely love them. They've been great in powder, park, trees, basically anything. The topsheets have been chipping a bit, but it's just cosmetic stuff so it really doesn't bother me in the least.

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Mar 14 2005 10:53PM
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ensv
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does any one know what they are changing for next years stl's

Mar 15 2005 12:05AM
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Rick_Husted
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pin tail desighn is when the tail is significantly smaller than the tip. that way you get more sink in the tails and more float on the tip. easier powder riding.

Mar 15 2005 12:35AM
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KeegLove
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i've only heard great things about how they ride.


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Mar 15 2005 1:06AM
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bret
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^^thanks rick.



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Mar 15 2005 1:33AM
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holyhucker
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i know of lik 4 ppl w/ this icon

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Mar 15 2005 8:33AM
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strode
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the edges of the topsheets get a little rough, but they don't actually ""chip"" (like lose big chunks). the rep told me they have a new topsheet next season to fix that. they're take some wear for the first few weeks you have them, then they don't really get worse after that.....it's kinda like the little rubber knobbies you get on new bike tires. and yeah they aren't going to get you down an icy slalom course too fast, but for carving big turns on normal snow they are perfect. and in my opinion they are rockstars switch



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Mar 15 2005 3:02PM
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michelle
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um holyhucker i got the icon from the napoleon dynamite website, cropped it so it would fit and put the black border around it myself.

so if their icon looks the same as mine, then they obviously got it from me.

Mar 15 2005 4:11PM
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FUUUCK
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ive skiied the msp on several occasions and can safely say that it doesnt hold a candle to my public enemies

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Mar 15 2005 5:30PM
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samty
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Whats the deal with the icon issue kiddies. The dude's ugly anyway

Mar 28 2005 11:06PM
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cool_catskier
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i dont think my stls jump that great cuz there so unstable when ur goin fast. but they are so fun for rails.

Mar 29 2005 12:28AM
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johanblaze
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they kick ass. especially the msp's.

Mar 29 2005 1:18AM
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CTD
Posts: 6300 - Karma: 348
yeah, i definatly agree, stls are the best rail/jib ski ever made, but they suck on big jumps, they are just too soft to handle it. however, they ski switch better than anything ive ever ridden ( i regularly out ski people switch on these things.) and the are very balanced (steeles mount) for rails. sick for jibbing, crappy for bigger jumps.



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Mar 29 2005 1:19AM
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dontH8innovate
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I've had no ploblems with my STLs on hits that are like 65 footers and smaller, bigger than that they get a little noodley

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Mar 29 2005 12:55PM
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vincepru
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they are by far the lightest skis ive ever held or ridden on. i dont know about the sidewalls though, i hear that they are not very durable.

Mar 29 2005 7:13PM
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bdskier
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^ptex sidewalls are very durable, the top sheets aren't amazing, but it's just cosmetic

Mar 29 2005 7:18PM
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