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Ass_Cock
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before you read this go look at the picture in the people section of the chick with pink hair (posted by frost or something). I started to respond but i got too pissed off with the lot of you and decided to just make a thread 'cause my rant was getting a bit long. enjoy.

i'm sorry, but some of you guys are fuckin' idiots. you can be 'punk' and still not be a goth or have liberty spikes. how can you fuckin' say she's a poser? who in their right mind would dye their hair pink if they didn't actually like the punk scene? OR - maybe we are all fucking dumbass's and her fav colour is pink and that's as far as it goes. But all of you people who (i'm presuming) consider yourself 'punk' and trying to say she's not - you should be ashamed of yourself. how is it 'punk' to hate on people for no reason but the fact that they arn't hardcore goth's?
take me for example. i am in a way a hippy because i don't care much about stuff that affects me in life, i'm dirty, growing my hair, and listen to everything from hip-hop to techno to punk to metal and everything in between (i kinda like that stupid 'boys' song by britney spears - it's got a good beat to it...). BUT at heart I am and always will be a 'punk'. I steal and break shit for kicks, don't give a fuck about what others got to say, I'm not a religious man at all... not even the slightest bit. No, I don't spike my hair (not even for show's - even though I could make a kick ass tri-hawk with it), I have no tatto's, no piercings, and I don't wear plad.

and now - those of you who say she's ugly - you guys have really high standards and probably can't live up to them yourselves. (I have (or had) a friend like that - he had really high standards with chicks, but he himself was not popular, not very good looking, and because of that he ends up turning down or just turning off the chicks that he can get - resulting in him being a 18 year old virgin who gets absolultly no play). The chick in that picture is not ugly. she's not the hottest, but she's got some cuteness to her and (guessing from her having pink hair) is true to what she believe's in. now if she was a bitch it would be a different story... but i do not know her and therefor i can say no more about her or that subject.



and while it's on my head - one thing i can not stand in people is not knowing where you stand in an environment like highschool. you know the types - people who think they are cooler than they are? don't try to be something you're not. be true to your friends, don't backstab people, bro's before hoe's, and lastly - believe in yourself and your belief's and you'll find your own group of really good friends.

Fuck Society - I'm done.

the shark is in attack mode.
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Sep 21 2002 9:56PM
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What
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one word
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Sep 21 2002 10:55PM
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What
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and the way u describe yourself is mad, pretty much the same as me
people say shit to me because i go to punk shows but dont wear plad and the typical hardcore punk shit, but i dont give a fuck
just do what you want, and dont say shit about people u dont know at all
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Sep 21 2002 10:56PM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
Posts: 6146 - Karma: 72
yup anti-conformisim is conformisim.. just with a different crowd. be yourself and good things will happen.
-Mike

'Isn't 14 legal for everyone?' - Dave Pauls
Sep 22 2002 2:14AM
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Brit1275
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i don't consider myself punk, i used to years ago, but i was a total poser (so maybe i lose all credibility, but whatever). i don't think she looks punk, cause she really doesn't. just cause you have pink hair, doesn't make you punk. when i think of punk, i think of good ol sex pistols, dead kennedys and the like. and you said something about goth and liberty spikes, goth and punk are two completely seperate things there sonny. but i think that the clothing is a big part of punk (leather, spikes, etc.) she is pretty, don't get me wrong, but definately NOT PUNK

Word up to all the subie owners out there!

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Sep 22 2002 2:30AM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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congrats... you totally missed the point.
-Mike

'Isn't 14 legal for everyone?' - Dave Pauls
Sep 22 2002 2:31AM
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Brit1275
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me? probably, i didn't actually read it, but whatever. i've made my point

Word up to all the subie owners out there!

Co-FOunder of the Low Summit Kicker Posse
Sep 22 2002 2:33AM
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jibs
Posts: 2529 - Karma: 48
Sure you did.

anyways, yah, i had a thread up about the same sort of thing...same girl as an example. I've come to accept that there are a pile of assholes on here, and no post will stop them from being idiots.

oh and you said you 'don't give a shit of what other people say' yet you have this big long post about not liking what other people are saying......?

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'You're old enough to know that you won't get a lot of things in life because you don't have tits' - One of the 1/4 pipe builders at snowjam winnipeg to a couple young boys in response to why we'd let 3 girls on the ramp and not them

Don't think just jump.
Sep 22 2002 2:44AM
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LifeJacket
Posts: 2660 - Karma: 28
Is treble Charger Punk...?

there so good!


'I'm still Ugly'
Sep 22 2002 2:57AM
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lagwagon
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arguments like this aren't punk, i say you punk if you wanna be.
people who only think there opinions are right arent punk, there just dickheads!

punk is everything.
Lagwagon. Is it legal to marry a band?
Sep 22 2002 3:56AM
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lagwagon
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hey dude
i know many of those points were directed at me for the comments i wrote about her, i was joking, it may have sounded prejudice but it was referring to the general stereotype most would think of as punk i know thats not the only punk culture and by no means was i saying she was less punk or anything, she's probly cool as, or maybe a total dick, but its just peoples's opinion, i find that it is very hard to express your personality on this, so most comments i write are the first things that come to my head after reading i say what i want, and sometimes its sarcastic sometimes serious and sometimes just plain fucked. may sound ignorant or even arrogant depends on how i feel, this probably applys to many on here, so who the fuck are we to judge each other on this unless we are close friends, fuck dude your on the otherside of the world its kinda hard to show personality on this, whatever you say on this SOMEONE is going to challenge it.

so just go with the flow accept what people have to say and what angle there saying it from (if you know).

peace dudes.

sell your eyes to science.




Lagwagon. Is it legal to marry a band?
Sep 22 2002 4:11AM
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Line1260
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punk is not how you look, but how you act


'He got fired? What did he do?'
'He jumped off of the roof again'
Sep 22 2002 9:40AM
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Tele-Jibber
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I agree but I'm going to take a little survey:

In your mind what is more punk:


1. Jumping up on a table in a mall or other public place and yelling 'ANARCHY!'
2. Getting a leather jacket, mohawk, boots etc.
3. Participating in organized protests.
4. Telling random people to fuck off.
5. Fucking stuff up.




Taylor
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Sep 22 2002 11:29AM
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CrazyChica
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telejibber, i can see your point, but i kind of disagree with the concept. in society today, i dont think you can really say something is 'more punk' than something else, just like you cant say one teacher is 'cooler' than another. you may know somethign in a sense that makes it seem cooler, or 'more punk' but that doesnt mean its the other way around for somebody else. judgements are overrated, people have started to take them way to seriously, along wiht their status in society, and its so not getting them anywhere. like i said, i can see your point, but i think your concept is totally off... quizzing people on what they think? is there really a right answer? shouldnt be... but then, is there even a wrong answer?





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-my life is my life alone, not yours to take away not yours to dictate, i am who i am, accept me or leave.-
Sep 22 2002 12:52PM
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Drail
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fuck society - that's the answer to what's cool or not.

what i want to know is - who decided what is 'in' and what's 'out'? like seriously - who is responsable for deciding what is cool for us?

Darryl Hunt

'Ah don' wanna talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food-trough wiper! Ah fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!
Sep 22 2002 12:59PM
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jibs
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waiiiiit a second...did someone up there actually insinuate that it's ok for them to express themselves, even if it means ripping on someone really badly, ripping on who that person is, their personality, or looks or anything else....but we aren't allowed to judge them based on that????? Buddy..if you want to act like an asshole, go right ahead, but i'm gonna think nothing less of you then that you are an ass. There is no way in hell i'm giving someone the benifit of the doubt just because its online.

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'You're old enough to know that you won't get a lot of things in life because you don't have tits' - One of the 1/4 pipe builders at snowjam winnipeg to a couple young boys in response to why we'd let 3 girls on the ramp and not them

Don't think just jump.
Sep 22 2002 1:02PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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This is the funniest post in NS history. Instead of trying to define what exaclt a rodeo is (lincoln 180, back flip 180, and on, and on...) we're trying to decide what 'punk' is???
FUCK OFF you bunch of posers!














What is the colour of a mirror?
Sep 22 2002 6:19PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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that wasnt to anyone in particular, just retards in general.














What is the colour of a mirror?
Sep 22 2002 6:20PM
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lagwagon
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sorry - can i have a mint?








Lagwagon. Is it legal to marry a band?
Sep 22 2002 6:36PM
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funkymonk
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DUDE!!! tele-jibber!!! is that the two tone logo? pick it up man!!!
dude, one time, I snorted ketchup off of a pizza. that sucked.


Oh yeah, republicans suck, you right winged conservative bastards, have fun burning in hell!!!!
Sep 22 2002 6:47PM
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Dfresh
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how can you look punk? punk is a mindset dude, believe in it.

no seriously chains and spikes dont make you punk, nor does pink hair, they make you a part of some group that dresses like that, i dont know there fucking name because they claim to be punk, im not saying they are not but punk is by no means expressed through your looks, its a mindset and an attitude

and what is the mindset? well it definately does NOT involve breaking shit and stealing, i dont know where the first guy got that from, punk is basically a unity amongst induviduals who seek to be a unique person and find self-fulfillment individually without the influence of mainstream society, well thats how i think of it anyways, trying to be yourself and not having to do what other people do, i think that is a pretty decent IDEA (because i dont really know how to define a mindset) of what the punk mindset includes

you can also be involved with the punk community in which then you can be described as a punk, but really you are trying to be indiviudal so you don't really want a label, so therefore you can't really be punk, so you can be 'yourself' and therefore the terms 'punk' and 'individuality' are interchangeable (in a sense) which eliminates the need for a label.

thats pretty much my viewpoint on it


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Sep 22 2002 7:25PM
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Drail
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you read the dictionary too much.

Darryl Hunt

'Ah don' wanna talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food-trough wiper! Ah fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!
Sep 22 2002 7:37PM
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Shane_McWannabe
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These two fags at my old high school were like that. They would be like 'does my hair look punk enough?' and shit like 'you're not punk cause you dont dress like one'.
The one fuck would take his Blink 182 CD and try to make his hair the exact same as the fucking guy in the picture. And when you would tell them that Blink 182 or any of those other pop-punk bands blow a fat ass cock they would be like 'your a conformist, look how you dress, your just a conformist.'
Fucking stupid people, that's all they are.


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Sep 22 2002 8:14PM
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lineskier10
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Yeah i hate people who are all like im a nonconformist, and they conform with the 'punk' types dressig in black and dying there hair, if you wanna be a noncomformist wear wht you want to and do what you want to people shouldnt even have classifications like punk and prep, im more of a 'prep' if you classified me but there shouldnt be stupid classifications and there shouldnt be retards running around being assholes and destroying stuff and acting like nazis hatin on all the jews just to be punk or a nonconformist its just stupid
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Sep 22 2002 9:48PM
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lagwagon
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i totally and exactly agree with the 'Dfresh' dude that is exactly what i was trying to write, but couldn't think of it like that, he knows what punk is, thats exactly how i think of it too!
good work bro.

and dude, i do read the dictionary sometimes and maybe you just need to read it a bit more!
its cool learing new words.

now i sound like a retard but yeah, that dude knows what punk is cool dude.

that made my day.

peace dudes.
Lagwagon. Is it legal to marry a band?
Sep 23 2002 4:51AM
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What
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im hearing all this shit about punks dressing in black, leather, spikes etc.
what the fuck is it with that?
i mean, firstly i know of no 'punkers' that dress like that, they just wear whatever they want to, as do i, i dont give a shit if people dont like it, its thier problem, not mine
i see black/spikes as gothic/devil worshipers and shit, like the goths at my school. but definately not punk
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Sep 23 2002 5:31AM
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Line1260
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a concise response to each:

1. Jumping up on a table in a mall or other public place and yelling 'ANARCHY!'
not funny. makes you look stupid.
2. Getting a leather jacket, mohawk, boots etc.
of course its the classic thing to do, but why not associate yourself with the music?
3. Participating in organized protests.
this is the one i vote for. i have been active in local gay rights/union rights/cut back on military for a while. i got kicked out of my political science class in high school because the ceiling tile i made had a soldier with no face shooting a gun into the air with an inverted flag for the background to show my distaste for military involvement in the middle east.
4. Telling random people to fuck off.
why? there is no reason to do this to random people, just people who piss you off
5. Fucking stuff up.
always a good time killer. especially when trashed


'He got fired? What did he do?'
'He jumped off of the roof again'
Sep 23 2002 6:10PM
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Caden
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i listen to punk, i dress how im comfortable(which is by the way a t-shirt and shorts from local winners or skate shop), i go to punk shows, wearing my normal clothes, i act normal, speak normal. its a type of music. who cares what other peopl dress asy or do? why waste your time telling other people what they are or are not. if they are a poser, who the fuck cares? its their life. maybe they want to be a poser. don't insult someone for being who they want dudes. leave be and let live. who gives a shit. honestly, no argument. bottom line is dont be a jerk, especially over music, ive been there thinkin i knew it all, its no fun to lose friensd over what music you listen to.


'One day I'm going to learn something i swear'
Sep 23 2002 7:27PM
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Gdawg3
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Punks are different just like all their friends.




We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
Sep 23 2002 7:38PM
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Tele-Jibber
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Ok, Line1260 pretty much responded the way I was hoping. And he said one very good thing.

'2. Getting a leather jacket, mohawk, boots etc.
of course its the classic thing to do, but why not associate yourself with the music?'

I am so tired of all this 'oh, if you actually dress punk, your surely not becuase then your just being part of their group'. Well did you ever think that punk is'nt rebeling against being in any group, just being part of the mainstream society that does the things they don't like. If you dress the same, act the same etc. as your friends that support the same thing as you and you agree with them, I would love to be associated with that group. And thats the reasoning (in my mind) behind all the 'punk clothing' (besides the fact that 99% of it is very practical and cheap), why not associate yourself with the music and people you like and agree with?


Taylor
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Sep 23 2002 8:19PM
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Tele-Jibber
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Btw, to whoever said that above, Yes it is the 2-Tone records mascot. Theres a few other Rudies here, just make a post and they'll surface.


Taylor
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Sep 23 2002 8:24PM
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Gdawg3
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I only have a problem with the hypocrites who accuse me of trying to conform to a certain group; that's exactly what they're doing. Many punks don't arrive at their beliefs by themselves (as I have done), instead, they just parrot back the views of their friends, which may include dressing a certain way.


We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
Sep 23 2002 9:58PM
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Line1260
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two tone is where ska ended. this third wave shit gives me headaches


'He got fired? What did he do?'
'He jumped off of the roof again'
Sep 23 2002 10:04PM
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ElChapoTrapHaus
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I'm not a fucking punk, and i will be the first one to admit it. I tell everyone to fuck off, so fuck you. My hair is in a mowhawk sometimes, and i love to fuck stuff up. Why? because it is fun. But i am not a fucking punk, fuck off. My favorite band is the sex pistols, and i love the clash and the ramones, and most of the music i listen to is punk. So fuck off! I hate you all. I think fucking anarchy is a dumb concept and will kick your hippee ass. I do what i like, but i am not a hedonist. I don't dress like a punk because 1. I am not one
2. It is not comfortable.
3. It is hard to skateboard in combat boots.
I no problem with people who are punks/posers, it is the person that i hate, the way you want to live you life isn't necessarily what i hate, it is your inner person.
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Sep 23 2002 10:13PM
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lagwagon
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In the words of NO FUN AT ALL - 'I am what i am'
i wear what i can afford and then sometimes christmas presents or something and i like melodic punk!
i rekon most of us here would say the best lifestyle is punk by all these definitions you guys are saying pretty much make punk look very wide and social.
and when you think about it ppl are saying 'wear what you want, do what you want' all that crap
this is what EVERYONE wants isn't it? so i don't get it? why isn't everyone punk?
yeah whatever

aha i found this in the newspaper this morning about my town:

'Oakura - where summer comes earlier and lasts longer!'

wicked for snow huh? ahahahahaha.





Lagwagon. Is it legal to marry a band?
Sep 25 2002 8:25PM
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Line1260
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ps, listen to Justin Sane!


'He got fired? What did he do?'
'He jumped off of the roof again'
Sep 25 2002 9:53PM
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is it just me or does ReefSideRider try too hard to prove himself over the internet?
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Sep 26 2002 6:14AM
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ElChapoTrapHaus
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wow, sorry for having some insight into a fucking post. I never realized i was trying to prove shit. I thought most of my posts were kind of funny. All i have ever claimed is that i am an alcoholic, a skibum, and a fucking asshole, which i will continue to be, so fuck off. You can think however you want to think, but don't ever tell me i am trying to prove shit, when i am just being who i am.
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Sep 26 2002 4:49PM
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Tele-Jibber
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Line1260, I'm kinda suprised Justin Sane isn't really your style. But yes get:

Justin Sane - We Found A Place
Justin Sane - Out Of Touch
Justin Sane - Critical Writing Exersise


Taylor
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Sep 26 2002 5:04PM
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Line1260
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i dont really have a style, i like it all from johnny cash to the casualties. the distillers to the dubliners. his music just kind of puts more spirit behind the anti-flag message when its just him and a geetar.


'He got fired? What did he do?'
'He jumped off of the roof again'
Sep 26 2002 8:29PM
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Tele-Jibber
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Yeah, Anti-Flag's songs always just seem like folk style lyrics and stuff put over the top of punk riffs, given I like this. But it does seem more at home in the more folk style then straight out punk. He also seems to put more feeling into the songs (atleast the studio recordings) when he's alone like that.


Taylor
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Sep 26 2002 9:12PM
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g-man
Posts: 1955 - Karma: 301
Everyone tries to conform to a group. Even if you tell yourself that you arent trying to conform to a group you are. You are conforming to a group of people who try not to conform to groups. Nonconformists are essentially a group of people who try to not-conform. Therefore if you try to be a non-conformists, you are essentailly conforming to the non-conformist group. The point Im trying to make is that all different personality types and sociological classifications are divided into groups. Who cares what group you are in. As long as you like whatever you do.. its your life, do the fuck whatever you want and dont bitch about other people.



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Sep 27 2002 2:52AM
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lagwagon
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ok this is what my punk friend said
i agree totally:

For me.....punk is about fucking great music, and about the wellington(NZ) scene.
The scene is just a group of like-minded individuals who share a common beleif in social justice, equality, and de-centralised libertarian socialism.
Or 'anarchism'
At our shows everyone goes along to support the bands and the people and they all help out and everyone helps organise and people stay afterwards and help clean up.
And every now and then someone gets beaten up or starts a little riot but it's no big deal.
That's why I fucking hate bands like 'brubeck' - they don't contribute anything. They played a show with us and wouldn't help with anything or let anyone use their gear. They expect us to do it all. Like they think they're fucking rockstars or something. Fuck that. GRASS FUCKING ROOTS MOTHERFUCKER!
Don't get me wrong though, as people they're alright.

Lagwagon. Is it legal to marry a band?
Sep 29 2002 12:22AM
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Dfresh
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get it, justin sane, just insane... i wonder what their real names are
don't do sleep and get 8 hours of drugs
Oct 3 2002 8:09PM
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The_ski_man
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YOU ARE A BATTIE BOY
Oct 4 2002 3:23PM
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Line1260
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the other day in detroit he played a few live songs after the show from his cd. good shit!


'He got fired? What did he do?'
'He jumped off of the roof again'
Oct 4 2002 8:19PM
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Rossiscratch
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haha well you must be an idiot for having u name be ass cock. hahah could you get any gayer??????


i remember halloween this day anything goes burning bodies hanging from poles i remember halloween
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